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Originally posted by The GerK The GerK wrote:

This is bat sh*t crazy and a sad indictment of how brazen Isael are
 

They control Al Shifa hospital now and this is the best they can do???


A horrible **** there doing the talking
Have seen him interviewed on the BBC since this began on October 7th, a real nasty piece of work 
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Originally posted by The GerK The GerK wrote:

This is bat sh*t crazy and a sad indictment of how brazen Isael are
 

They control Al Shifa hospital now and this is the best they can do???


For starters if HAMAS were in the hospital building itself they've had ample time to relocate to a better position. Whether there's underground tunnels or not won't be revealed by simply walking through the hospital and if there are tunnels I'd guess they've brought the supplies with them. 

Here's a thread from a Dutch journalist describing their presence there. Now I'll probably be told by someone on here that this guy is actually a raging racist. 


@Badger if you know how Twitter works there's a for you section and it's filled with a combination of people you follow and people you don't. Before Elon this feed was drastically different. Since he took over it's become very biased towards Russia and Israel. He's obviously moved the dial in the complete opposite direction. Doesn't matter how many times I click not interested in the Kremlin shills they keep re appearing. My YouTube on the other hand is 100% Pro Ukraine and Palestine except for the Ukrainians who are Israel sympathisers. 

I'm no politics nerd and I don't know who all these people are like Vance. He however is a secondary source and is merely reposting news that favours his agenda. Looking at the replies to the tweet I linked it's obviously in relation to that HAMAS actor who keeps appearing in different photoshoots they set up. Some involving dead babies and wounded children. 

The point is HAMAS lose credibility when they start faking thing's. Their PR machine is strong and the fact they had all these dimwits believing 800 people died in a hospital car park proves it. The sheep are easily led.


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Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by The GerK The GerK wrote:

This is bat sh*t crazy and a sad indictment of how brazen Isael are
 

They control Al Shifa hospital now and this is the best they can do???


For starters if HAMAS were in the hospital building itself they've had ample time to relocate to a better position. Whether there's underground tunnels or not won't be revealed by simply walking through the hospital and if there are tunnels I'd guess they've brought the supplies with them. 

Here's a thread from a Dutch journalist describing their presence there. Now I'll probably be told by someone on here that this guy is actually a raging racist. 


@Badger if you know how Twitter works there's a for you section and it's filled with a combination of people you follow and people you don't. Before Elon this feed was drastically different. Since he took over it's become very biased towards Russia and Israel. He's obviously moved the dial in the complete opposite direction. Doesn't matter how many times I click not interested in the Kremlin shills they keep re appearing. My YouTube on the other hand is 100% Pro Ukraine and Palestine except for the Ukrainians who are Israel sympathisers. 

I'm no politics nerd and I don't know who all these people are like Vance. He however is a secondary source and is merely reposting news that favours his agenda. Looking at the replies to the tweet I linked it's obviously in relation to that HAMAS actor who keeps appearing in different photoshoots they set up. Some involving dead babies and wounded children. 

The point is HAMAS lose credibility when they start faking thing's. Their PR machine is strong and the fact they had all these dimwits believing 800 people died in a hospital car park proves it. The sheep are easily led.



I will always see things from both sides and certainly won't play any racist card. But that thread is weak with absolutely nothing in it. No links to any published work, lack of any detail and just an admittance that he saw some guys with guns - but then adds that that is a regular scene throughout Gaza.

Remember the context here. Babies denied medical treatment because it is apparently a Hamas 'command centre'. 

How vast can a complex be? All we have thus far is a couple of rusty AK47s and a shed load of propaganda/lies (factual proven) from Israel. 

I will have no problem changing my mind if facts change. But right now, this looks like an old war play book. 
Destroy hospital to weaken opponent.  
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Originally posted by The GerK The GerK wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by The GerK The GerK wrote:

This is bat sh*t crazy and a sad indictment of how brazen Isael are
 

They control Al Shifa hospital now and this is the best they can do???


For starters if HAMAS were in the hospital building itself they've had ample time to relocate to a better position. Whether there's underground tunnels or not won't be revealed by simply walking through the hospital and if there are tunnels I'd guess they've brought the supplies with them. 

Here's a thread from a Dutch journalist describing their presence there. Now I'll probably be told by someone on here that this guy is actually a raging racist. 


@Badger if you know how Twitter works there's a for you section and it's filled with a combination of people you follow and people you don't. Before Elon this feed was drastically different. Since he took over it's become very biased towards Russia and Israel. He's obviously moved the dial in the complete opposite direction. Doesn't matter how many times I click not interested in the Kremlin shills they keep re appearing. My YouTube on the other hand is 100% Pro Ukraine and Palestine except for the Ukrainians who are Israel sympathisers. 

I'm no politics nerd and I don't know who all these people are like Vance. He however is a secondary source and is merely reposting news that favours his agenda. Looking at the replies to the tweet I linked it's obviously in relation to that HAMAS actor who keeps appearing in different photoshoots they set up. Some involving dead babies and wounded children. 

The point is HAMAS lose credibility when they start faking thing's. Their PR machine is strong and the fact they had all these dimwits believing 800 people died in a hospital car park proves it. The sheep are easily led.



I will always see things from both sides and certainly won't play any racist card. But that thread is weak with absolutely nothing in it. No links to any published work, lack of any detail and just an admittance that he saw some guys with guns - but then adds that that is a regular scene throughout Gaza.

Remember the context here. Babies denied medical treatment because it is apparently a Hamas 'command centre'. 

How vast can a complex be? All we have thus far is a couple of rusty AK47s and a shed load of propaganda/lies (factual proven) from Israel. 

I will have no problem changing my mind if facts change. But right now, this looks like an old war play book. 
Destroy hospital to weaken opponent.  
You make valid points but you know what I don't understand. Why hasn't Egypt, Saudi, turkey etc offered to take these kids and give them treatment. Didn't neighboring countries do just that for Ukraine after Russia's brutal invasion left people vulnerable?
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Egypt won't take refugees because Israel wants everyone out. Egypt knows this. The whole world knows this.
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From Shona Murray

Break: Ehud Olmert tells me Hamas command center is in Khan Younis - not #Shifa hospital. 
“Khan Younis, which is in the southern part of Gaza Strip, is the real headquarters of Hamas.”


Can Israel apologists even see that they may be victim of propaganda here?


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Originally posted by Jackal Jackal wrote:

Egypt won't take refugees because Israel wants everyone out. Egypt knows this. The whole world knows this.
We're talking kids in hospital here not the entire population. Still didn't stop a huge proportion of Ukrainians leaving to neighboring countries which ultimately suit's Putin aswell.
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Man and son follow Israel instructions to leave and go South. 

Kid shot dead while holding a white flag. 

f**king animals 

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Here's the full report and there's a part 2 to the tweet which continues the report. Heartbreaking. It says it's not clear who shot them.


But if I compared CNN's geo location to these twitter reporters estimating the area of control for Israel, they has advanced a fair distance past this point so it should be an area under their control. It doesn't confirm it was the IDF but it's certainly looking that way.



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Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Here's the full report and there's a part 2 to the tweet which continues the report. Heartbreaking. It says it's not clear who shot them.


But if I compared CNN's geo location to these twitter reporters estimating the area of control for Israel, they has advanced a fair distance past this point so it should be an area under their control. It doesn't confirm it was the IDF but it's certainly looking that way.


Good info 
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https://twitter.com/CollegeTribune/status/1725521503498690858?t=4Ws8rW7amxruObdO20gXcw&s=19

Thing's got heated at a debate in UCD between Pro Palestinians and Pro Israelis.
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I previously questioned why countries like Egypt are not taking babies or children from hospitals well to their credit they actually are so I jumped the gun with them at least. The BBC has a report on their website.
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Have you boys seen the CCTV footage that's started to emerge from the hospital in Gaza? I won't post any link's myself because it'll be discredited. The person who reshared it to twitter probably follows somebody they don't like on here. Anyway do your own digging. 
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Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Have you boys seen the CCTV footage that's started to emerge from the hospital in Gaza? I won't post any link's myself because it'll be discredited. The person who reshared it to twitter probably follows somebody they don't like on here. Anyway do your own digging. 
It's not definitive proof of all Israel's claims re Al Shifa, but the NGOs have some serious questions to answer. The NGOs and WHO have backed the doctors of Al Shifa to the hilt, who claimed that there was no Hamas presence, nor hostages. Both of those claims now seemingly blown to smithereens. The Israelis have named the man in one of videos as a Nepalese hostage, so they must be fairly confident on the identity.
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Originally posted by SeaSharp SeaSharp wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Have you boys seen the CCTV footage that's started to emerge from the hospital in Gaza? I won't post any link's myself because it'll be discredited. The person who reshared it to twitter probably follows somebody they don't like on here. Anyway do your own digging. 
It's not definitive proof of all Israel's claims re Al Shifa, but the NGOs have some serious questions to answer. The NGOs and WHO have backed the doctors of Al Shifa to the hilt, who claimed that there was no Hamas presence, nor hostages. Both of those claims now seemingly blown to smithereens. The Israelis have named the man in one of videos as a Nepalese hostage, so they must be fairly confident on the identity.

There's another image recently of one of the Israeli child hostages being pulled into the hospital by a man. Did you see the drone footage of the 50M long tunnel underneath the compound? I'm assuming it hasn't been debunked.
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Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Have you boys seen the CCTV footage that's started to emerge from the hospital in Gaza? I won't post any link's myself because it'll be discredited. The person who reshared it to twitter probably follows somebody they don't like on here. Anyway do your own digging
You can hardly feel disgruntled or play the victim about posting links to far right racists tweets and feel hard done by, considering the tone of your posts to date when it comes to "free loading foreigners" and "These people are mentally ill and we should not be lining up to take large numbers of refugees from a culture like this. Unless you want more instances like Sligo."




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Originally posted by Badgersboys9 Badgersboys9 wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Have you boys seen the CCTV footage that's started to emerge from the hospital in Gaza? I won't post any link's myself because it'll be discredited. The person who reshared it to twitter probably follows somebody they don't like on here. Anyway do your own digging
You can hardly feel disgruntled or play the victim about posting links to far right racists tweets and feel hard done by, considering the tone of your posts to date when it comes to "free loading foreigners" and "These people are mentally ill and we should not be lining up to take large numbers of refugees from a culture like this. Unless you want more instances like Sligo."




I'm no victim I'm just laughing at the stupidity. If I see something on telegram, let's say related to Hamas and a hospital for example, I'll quickly jump on twitter and post the first similar video I see after searching those word. I don't care if it's posted by someone who's facing left/right up or down. Couldn't give a bollox. 

Obviously it it's something that supports right wing nutters they'll use it and obviously you left wing nutters here will focus on who they are rather than the actual content. It's kinda amusing to see and I'm not sure why I even bother. I should just let the loons have their echo chamber.

I seen a documentary last night about the 12k Isis prisoners who the Kurds are struggling to keep and the Turks are trying to free. There's also a civilian camp full of the woman and children of Isis fighters. It's basically a tented city. The young kids going around chanting ISIS songs. I'd consider a lot in there mentally ill with no morals. We could be the good guy's and take in 100k of them. That's the sort of thing I'm thinking of when you look at homophobic murders from the followers of Islam. You take them in the country becomes less safe for the LGBTQ community.

Anyway my comment shouldn't have been posted when I did as it was insensitive to do so while Gaza civilians were getting blown to bits. But you keep bringing it up so what can you do.

Foreigner freeloaders two words from the dictionary buddy and they perfectly describe the type of person that Slovakian was and we have plenty more too. Whether or not they intend to murder someone is irrelevant they shouldn't be here. Not the type of people any country wants and we've enough of our own as it is why add more.


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