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It’s not a big thing but I like the way Mick gave both goalkeepers a game on Tuesday. Thought it was good man management. 



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I thought we would finish third I am sure, don’t think I said we would have finished fourth, more that we would be closer to fourth than second. Still, we are miles ahead of where I thought. He is overachieving greatly and deserves credit; long may it continue!
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Hugely overachieving given the rabble he inherited. Even if we don't beat Denmark or Switzerland and qualify as runners up, he will have managed to get the results that will achieve that. Tables never lie. 

Also, don't underestimate the importance financially to the FAI that we qualify.
The 10 year season tickets are now up again and need to be sold just as they were in the economy collapse years of '09 &'10. They sold them then because the team was on the up with Trap, just as they are now.
Lest anyone forgets, we still owe a bloody fortune of stadium debt.
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Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

What does Mick have to do to get some credit? It wasn’t his fault he was appointed and given a remit of qualification! People on about beating teams of note! We have possibly the worst squad in our history! It’s atrocious! And yet he has kept us in with a shout with three games to go.
I said before the campaign that if we qualify they should build a statue of him, that hasn’t changed.

I don't disagree. We won't qualify. 

We most certainly won't qualify by trying not to win games though. That is what McCarthy has brought. Those tactics and that mindset. I most definitely won't applaud him for that.


You have clogged up this thread with the same sh*te. We get it you don't like him or the football he plays. For the love of God give over.
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Originally posted by Stoked Up Stoked Up wrote:

Hugely overachieving given the rabble he inherited. Even if we don't beat Denmark or Switzerland and qualify as runners up, he will have managed to get the results that will achieve that. Tables never lie. 

Also, don't underestimate the importance financially to the FAI that we qualify.
The 10 year season tickets are now up again and need to be sold just as they were in the economy collapse years of '09 &'10. They sold them then because the team was on the up with Trap, just as they are now.
Lest anyone forgets, we still owe a bloody fortune of stadium debt.

I thought we were close to paying that off hence the current cash flow problems and lack of investment?
If we are still loaded with debt it really brings their actions to the level of embezzlement, Their go to excuse was the stadium and 2020 debt free.

As an aside I've been told about the trinations u21 tournament here in Cork way back. Italy,Germany and ourselves took part if I'm not mistaken. It was a 3 day event where they basically booked out the hotel (Rochestown park hotel) for 50+ FAI officials and families where not one put the hand in the pocket all week. Food drink etc Its one of the most expensive hotels in the country. 

In my gut I think most of them are going to survive.

Mick succeeding may just incentivise more degeneracy going forward which really brings my rage to the fore because a part of me would say f*** it lets not qualify and watch them all burn, as counter productive to actual football success in the country as that is.
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USA should name Mick manager. 
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Don’t think we are overachieving or underachieving by our results so far.  We have often got draws away from home and at home. All will be revealed if we win 2 of the last 3 games then we will have overachieved. 
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What limited sides like us go out and play brilliant football and regularly beat higher ranked sides? I can't think of any.

Mick has done a decent job. Not an amazing job, by no means a bad job. A decent job so far. He's kept us consistent, picking up the results we need.

I said it before and I'll say it again, there's a lot to be said and credit due for that consistency in international football. We hear a lot about "relying  on Georgia to do us a favour"  but given that it keeps happening, is it not that other teams around our level or better than us simply can't reliably get results and that's why we've gotten into playoff positions ahead of Scotland, Wales, Austria and now have an advantage over Denmark? 

When we drop points in Georgia once - we are sh*te.

When 3 other teams do it in 3 campaigns we've been in with them - fluke.


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Also in before anyone mentions the North - every single person on this would have had Michael O'Neill crucified for his initial results, had they happened to us. Myself included. We don't have that patience. We want long term results in the short term.
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Originally posted by rolo rolo wrote:

Very harsh criticism of Mick on here. He is doing a very good job, considering the players at his disposal.
People have short memories. Not even a year ago since the mood on here was downbeat about our chances. I remember pre madonna predicting with absolute confidence that Ireland would be competing with Georgia for 3rd place, and that Ireland would lose that battle.
We are top of the group. People need to be reminded of how low things were before Mick took the job. His job is to take us to the Euros, by whatever means.
If we stuck with MON that would have been ambitious! 7/8 points we would have gotten at a stretch!!
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Happy to be top after 5 games i must say and if Mick gets us to 2020 it will be outstanding .


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can see Mick getting the Scotland Job if he continues doing well with ourselves and Kenny takes the job .
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The O'Shea Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Sep 2019 at 10:03pm
I'm not sure an Irishman with links to Celtic would go down all that well with a lot of Scotland fans.
We're decent enough..
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

I'm not sure an Irishman with links to Celtic would go down all that well with a lot of Scotland fans.

Are we all militant Proddies that support Rangers then ?

You clearly don't know a thing about our support.
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We are not overly blessed with talent at the minute and MoN / Keane only took us backwards. The good news is the  amount of quality players who may be coming through in the next few years. In the circumstances, 'holding the line' in terms of building pride and morale is significant. If that can be coupled with maybe moving up the rankings for future qualification campaigns - or at least not slipping back - these should be seen as positives. Mick seems very well qualified to perform this task and so far, seems to be doing so very well.
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Originally posted by ErsatzThistle ErsatzThistle wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

I'm not sure an Irishman with links to Celtic would go down all that well with a lot of Scotland fans.

Are we all militant Proddies that support Rangers then ?

You clearly don't know a thing about our support.

No, but Steve Clarke's (tenuous) "Taig" links provoked enough attention to suggest that Scotland still has a pretty visible sectarian faultline. I think the prospect of an Irish former Celtic player taking over would be more than enough to ruffle a few feathers.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:


No, but Steve Clarke's (tenuous) "Taig" links provoked enough attention to suggest that Scotland still has a pretty visible sectarian faultline. I think the prospect of an Irish former Celtic player taking over would be more than enough to ruffle a few feathers.

Scotland supporters don't have any problem with having a Catholic manager or having anyone with a Celtic connection involved. I can assure you of that without any doubt. If you like, you can register for the TAMB and ask other supporters outright, they will only tell you the same.

Of course if some "oppressed", tin foil hat wearing, paranoid wacko, that lives in a bubble from the lunatic fringe of the Celtic support wants to spin lies that the Scotland support are all a bunch of bigots who hate Celtic and don't want any Catholics in our team then that's their sad wee problem and I can only pity them. 

I suggest you take a highly educational trip to Rangers Media or Follow Follow and see what they say about our Scottish national team's fans, or as they like to call us "Tartan Tranny ****s". For various stupid reasons they fecking hate us just as much, indeed if not more than they hate YBIG !

The majority of our fans support teams like Aberdeen, Hibs, Dundee Utd, Hearts, Dundee, St Johnstone, Kilmarnock, Motherwell, Falkirk, Partick Thistle, Greenock Morton etc etc and have a deeply rooted contempt for all this Old Firm sh*te.

Steve Clarke is actually the seventh Roman Catholic to manage Scotland either on a permanent or temporary basis. The others were - Matt Busby, Malky MacDonald, Tommy Docherty, Berti Vogts, Tommy Burns & Malky Mackay.

Tommy Burns (a Celtic legend and a devout Roman Catholic) was highly popular with the Scotland fans when he was assistant manager, first under Berti Vogts and then under Walter Smith. Burns was known for often socialising with the fans on away trips and even helping them to find tickets and accommodation. We dearly wish that Tommy Burns was still with us.

A former ROI international (Steven Reid) is one of Clarke's coaches with Scotland. I don't know of anyone who gave the slightest toss about Reid's nationality when he took the job. I am glad to have him with us. Hopefully in time he can teach John McGinn how to pass a friggin ball properly !
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