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Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

What to say about our Mick really? I suppose we should start with the positive part - thank absolute f*ck we are done with him. Finally. Gone. An abomination of a manager overseeing one of the most appalling campaigns any Irish fan could ever have witnessed. Dross is an understatement. Remember 18 months ago when numerous posters on this forum were arguing that this spoofer was going to have Ireland playing attractive football? Remember that - those were glory days alright. Heady heady times.

His backside in the bacon slicer schtick wore thin over a decade ago for anyone with an ounce of sense, and all you were left with was a bog standard over the hill manager, who was way out of his depth unless operating in the lower realms of any competitive league. League 1 is about his lot at best these days, but I don't expect to see him toiling there anytime soon with the pension pot he picked up from the FAI.

So that's 5 campaigns McCarthy has been part of. 1 qualification. The campaign gone will hopefully be remembered as his signature campaign though. Forgetting Gibraltar, we won 1 game out of 6 qualifiers. The plan to draw ourselves to qualification by praying a concoction of crazy results elsewhere would see us over the line, well that amazingly backfired. A campaign of total non football, completely outdoing any campaign before in that regard. 

Pound for pound, McCarthy TC and RK will go down as one of the most expensive mistakes in Irish football history. Does anyone have the breakdown of the pension pot received, will it total 3 million for McCarthy alone? Excluding possible add-ons if we qualify, you couldn't make it up. Add TC and RK in and are you looking at 4 million for the management team in this campaign LOL My f*cking God, you couldn't make it up. Works out at about 500k per match LOL

I suppose the main thing though is our Mick got his shot at it. A big chunk of the Irish football faithful were delighted to see him back, who would have possibly thought it could play out like this. As for the succession planning, tbf that has worked a treat. Even the Robbie Keane situation looks like it was brilliantly thought through LOL

Bye Mick (our Mick for your official title). Enjoy the millions added to the pension pot that the FAI will be paying off for years in future. You will not be missed one bit, and please don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out. 

Good f*cking riddance.

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In the last days of the O'Neill era the wheels were really coming off, and Mick came in and restored order.

A typical game was - 

play an ineffective long-ball game to a lone striker,

concede from a corner,

have one shot on goal a game,

have Duffy kick the ball into the stand.


O'Neill's last 10 games

.........P....W....D....L....F....A

........10....1....4....5....5...15


McCarthy's Record

..........P....W....D....L....F....A

.........10....5....4....1....13....7


The stats demonstrate the change.


Did any one expect Tiki Taka? - No. 

What we did expect was a more mixed game, which we did get. And we hoped for a big result at home, against either Denmark or Switzerland, which we didn't get.

He brought McGoldrick in from the cold, but overall Mick's biggest failing was player selection. James Collins was the wrong choice, for instance.

The money situation is ridiculous, but that is principally down to the worst thing to ever happen to football in this country - John Delaney.


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Good analysis Terzino but you need more of a multifaceted approach otherwise it's not apples for apples, 

were all these competitive games, all home/away games and you need to include the opposition level comparison.

I believe two of McCarthys wins were vs Gibraltar.

I think both McCarthy and o'Neil were disappointing appointments but I would agree mccarthy slightly less so,


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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Good analysis Terzino but you need more of a multifaceted approach otherwise it's not apples for apples, 

were all these competitive games, all home/away games and you need to include the opposition level comparison.

I believe two of McCarthys wins were vs Gibraltar.

I think both McCarthy and o'Neil were disappointing appointments but I would agree mccarthy slightly less so,
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Good analysis Terzino but you need more of a multifaceted approach otherwise it's not apples for apples, 

were all these competitive games, all home/away games and you need to include the opposition level comparison.

I believe two of McCarthys wins were vs Gibraltar.

I think both McCarthy and o'Neil were disappointing appointments but I would agree mccarthy slightly less so,
Another 2 of those wins were against piss-poor opposition in Bulgaria and New Zealand in friendlies. The remaining one was v Georgia (a team we couldn't even beat at their ground). But when it came to the crunch against our qualifying rivals, we couldn't do it. Not exactly the sort of reign we were hoping for on his return. Stern Smile
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Two training wins and two against Gibraltar, neither of them convincing. The other against Georgia at home where, despite playing well, we couldn't finish them off.
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Originally posted by ConorMac77 ConorMac77 wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Good analysis Terzino but you need more of a multifaceted approach otherwise it's not apples for apples, 

were all these competitive games, all home/away games and you need to include the opposition level comparison.

I believe two of McCarthys wins were vs Gibraltar.

I think both McCarthy and o'Neil were disappointing appointments but I would agree mccarthy slightly less so,
Another 2 of those wins were against piss-poor opposition in Bulgaria and New Zealand in friendlies. The remaining one was v Georgia (a team we couldn't even beat at their ground). But when it came to the crunch against our qualifying rivals, we couldn't do it. Not exactly the sort of reign we were hoping for on his return. Stern Smile

Neither could Denmark.

I agree with Terzinos post alright.

Albeit as people point out those wins were against lower opposition I still thing that boils down to results under O'Neill, teams wouldn't see playing Ireland as a challenge anymore or perhaps we jsut couldn't afford the fees to bring the bigger teams in for friendlies anymore.

I get we didn't qualify but we were damn close, and I'd say closer then we would have been under MON. 

I think we would have lost both home and away to Swiss under MON and possibly Denmark too, Georgia probably would have beaten us too.

I agree we aren't comparing apples with apples  but I think for what he done for the morale of the team and bringing in new players and some back McCarthy done a good job.

I still don't get the fascination people have that Kenny is going to come and turn us into Barcelona 2.0 though. I of course hope he does but I'd be happy if we qualified for the Euros with 2 boring 0-0 draws and penalty wins tbh.
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O'Neill had six or seven friendlies before his first qualifier. McCarthy had none. Three draws and a defeat against Denmark and Switzerland wasn't that bad. The damaging result was the away draw to Georgia. Also, we have no one up front to score goals and our two Premiership midfielders had poor campaigns. McCarthy's financial handshake was scandalous, but on the field - anyone expecting better was naive. 
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Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

What to say about our Mick really? I suppose we should start with the positive part - thank absolute f*ck we are done with him. Finally. Gone. An abomination of a manager overseeing one of the most appalling campaigns any Irish fan could ever have witnessed. Dross is an understatement. Remember 18 months ago when numerous posters on this forum were arguing that this spoofer was going to have Ireland playing attractive football? Remember that - those were glory days alright. Heady heady times.

His backside in the bacon slicer schtick wore thin over a decade ago for anyone with an ounce of sense, and all you were left with was a bog standard over the hill manager, who was way out of his depth unless operating in the lower realms of any competitive league. League 1 is about his lot at best these days, but I don't expect to see him toiling there anytime soon with the pension pot he picked up from the FAI.

So that's 5 campaigns McCarthy has been part of. 1 qualification. The campaign gone will hopefully be remembered as his signature campaign though. Forgetting Gibraltar, we won 1 game out of 6 qualifiers. The plan to draw ourselves to qualification by praying a concoction of crazy results elsewhere would see us over the line, well that amazingly backfired. A campaign of total non football, completely outdoing any campaign before in that regard. 

Pound for pound, McCarthy TC and RK will go down as one of the most expensive mistakes in Irish football history. Does anyone have the breakdown of the pension pot received, will it total 3 million for McCarthy alone? Excluding possible add-ons if we qualify, you couldn't make it up. Add TC and RK in and are you looking at 4 million for the management team in this campaign LOL My f*cking God, you couldn't make it up. Works out at about 500k per match LOL

I suppose the main thing though is our Mick got his shot at it. A big chunk of the Irish football faithful were delighted to see him back, who would have possibly thought it could play out like this. As for the succession planning, tbf that has worked a treat. Even the Robbie Keane situation looks like it was brilliantly thought through LOL

Bye Mick (our Mick for your official title). Enjoy the millions added to the pension pot that the FAI will be paying off for years in future. You will not be missed one bit, and please don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out. 

Good f*cking riddance.

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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by ConorMac77 ConorMac77 wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Good analysis Terzino but you need more of a multifaceted approach otherwise it's not apples for apples, 

were all these competitive games, all home/away games and you need to include the opposition level comparison.

I believe two of McCarthys wins were vs Gibraltar.

I think both McCarthy and o'Neil were disappointing appointments but I would agree mccarthy slightly less so,
Another 2 of those wins were against piss-poor opposition in Bulgaria and New Zealand in friendlies. The remaining one was v Georgia (a team we couldn't even beat at their ground). But when it came to the crunch against our qualifying rivals, we couldn't do it. Not exactly the sort of reign we were hoping for on his return. Stern Smile

Neither could Denmark.

I agree with Terzinos post alright.

Albeit as people point out those wins were against lower opposition I still thing that boils down to results under O'Neill, teams wouldn't see playing Ireland as a challenge anymore or perhaps we jsut couldn't afford the fees to bring the bigger teams in for friendlies anymore.

I get we didn't qualify but we were damn close, and I'd say closer then we would have been under MON. 

I think we would have lost both home and away to Swiss under MON and possibly Denmark too, Georgia probably would have beaten us too.

I agree we aren't comparing apples with apples  but I think for what he done for the morale of the team and bringing in new players and some back McCarthy done a good job.

I still don't get the fascination people have that Kenny is going to come and turn us into Barcelona 2.0 though. I of course hope he does but I'd be happy if we qualified for the Euros with 2 boring 0-0 draws and penalty wins tbh.

Who are these people? The only fascination I see is people posting about this supposed fascination.

Believe it or not, there are more than 2 football styles/approaches. If you choose to play like O'Neill/McCarthy/Trap, the only other alternative doesn't have to be a version of Barcelona. There are many ways to skin a cat and Barcelona didn't invent the offensive side of football. 
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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by ConorMac77 ConorMac77 wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Good analysis Terzino but you need more of a multifaceted approach otherwise it's not apples for apples, 

were all these competitive games, all home/away games and you need to include the opposition level comparison.

I believe two of McCarthys wins were vs Gibraltar.

I think both McCarthy and o'Neil were disappointing appointments but I would agree mccarthy slightly less so,
Another 2 of those wins were against piss-poor opposition in Bulgaria and New Zealand in friendlies. The remaining one was v Georgia (a team we couldn't even beat at their ground). But when it came to the crunch against our qualifying rivals, we couldn't do it. Not exactly the sort of reign we were hoping for on his return. Stern Smile

Neither could Denmark.

I agree with Terzinos post alright.

Albeit as people point out those wins were against lower opposition I still thing that boils down to results under O'Neill, teams wouldn't see playing Ireland as a challenge anymore or perhaps we jsut couldn't afford the fees to bring the bigger teams in for friendlies anymore.

I get we didn't qualify but we were damn close, and I'd say closer then we would have been under MON. 

I think we would have lost both home and away to Swiss under MON and possibly Denmark too, Georgia probably would have beaten us too.

I agree we aren't comparing apples with apples  but I think for what he done for the morale of the team and bringing in new players and some back McCarthy done a good job.

I still don't get the fascination people have that Kenny is going to come and turn us into Barcelona 2.0 though. I of course hope he does but I'd be happy if we qualified for the Euros with 2 boring 0-0 draws and penalty wins tbh.

Is anyone saying this though. Most people think he will play exactly like he did with the u21s, a more go for it attitude but still pragmatic. If the team plays and gets similar results to the u21's Ill be extremely happy. I hope Kenny gets enough time to implement it. It might be a case of writing off the first campaign and nations league and waiting until euro 2024 to judge Kenny. With the top two automatically qualifying to the European championships. Automatic qualification should our aim, not just a play off  position


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Originally posted by foggy.nelson foggy.nelson wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by ConorMac77 ConorMac77 wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Good analysis Terzino but you need more of a multifaceted approach otherwise it's not apples for apples, 

were all these competitive games, all home/away games and you need to include the opposition level comparison.

I believe two of McCarthys wins were vs Gibraltar.

I think both McCarthy and o'Neil were disappointing appointments but I would agree mccarthy slightly less so,
Another 2 of those wins were against piss-poor opposition in Bulgaria and New Zealand in friendlies. The remaining one was v Georgia (a team we couldn't even beat at their ground). But when it came to the crunch against our qualifying rivals, we couldn't do it. Not exactly the sort of reign we were hoping for on his return. Stern Smile

Neither could Denmark.

I agree with Terzinos post alright.

Albeit as people point out those wins were against lower opposition I still thing that boils down to results under O'Neill, teams wouldn't see playing Ireland as a challenge anymore or perhaps we jsut couldn't afford the fees to bring the bigger teams in for friendlies anymore.

I get we didn't qualify but we were damn close, and I'd say closer then we would have been under MON. 

I think we would have lost both home and away to Swiss under MON and possibly Denmark too, Georgia probably would have beaten us too.

I agree we aren't comparing apples with apples  but I think for what he done for the morale of the team and bringing in new players and some back McCarthy done a good job.

I still don't get the fascination people have that Kenny is going to come and turn us into Barcelona 2.0 though. I of course hope he does but I'd be happy if we qualified for the Euros with 2 boring 0-0 draws and penalty wins tbh.

Is anyone saying this though. Most people think he will play exactly like he did with the u21s, a more go for it attitude but still pragmatic. If the team plays and gets similar results to the u21's Ill be extremely happy. I hope Kenny gets enough time to implement it. It might be a case of writing off the first campaign and nations league and waiting until euro 2024 to judge Kenny. With the top two automatically qualifying to the European championships. Automatic qualification should our aim, not just a play off  position

Kenny won't get anything near four years if results are poor. Fans will want him out, media will want him out and the FAI will throw him out because they desperately need the money brought by qualification.
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Originally posted by Yiksheemash Yiksheemash wrote:

Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

What to say about our Mick really? I suppose we should start with the positive part - thank absolute f*ck we are done with him. Finally. Gone. An abomination of a manager overseeing one of the most appalling campaigns any Irish fan could ever have witnessed. Dross is an understatement. Remember 18 months ago when numerous posters on this forum were arguing that this spoofer was going to have Ireland playing attractive football? Remember that - those were glory days alright. Heady heady times.

His backside in the bacon slicer schtick wore thin over a decade ago for anyone with an ounce of sense, and all you were left with was a bog standard over the hill manager, who was way out of his depth unless operating in the lower realms of any competitive league. League 1 is about his lot at best these days, but I don't expect to see him toiling there anytime soon with the pension pot he picked up from the FAI.

So that's 5 campaigns McCarthy has been part of. 1 qualification. The campaign gone will hopefully be remembered as his signature campaign though. Forgetting Gibraltar, we won 1 game out of 6 qualifiers. The plan to draw ourselves to qualification by praying a concoction of crazy results elsewhere would see us over the line, well that amazingly backfired. A campaign of total non football, completely outdoing any campaign before in that regard. 

Pound for pound, McCarthy TC and RK will go down as one of the most expensive mistakes in Irish football history. Does anyone have the breakdown of the pension pot received, will it total 3 million for McCarthy alone? Excluding possible add-ons if we qualify, you couldn't make it up. Add TC and RK in and are you looking at 4 million for the management team in this campaign LOL My f*cking God, you couldn't make it up. Works out at about 500k per match LOL

I suppose the main thing though is our Mick got his shot at it. A big chunk of the Irish football faithful were delighted to see him back, who would have possibly thought it could play out like this. As for the succession planning, tbf that has worked a treat. Even the Robbie Keane situation looks like it was brilliantly thought through LOL

Bye Mick (our Mick for your official title). Enjoy the millions added to the pension pot that the FAI will be paying off for years in future. You will not be missed one bit, and please don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out. 

Good f*cking riddance.

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McCarthy could have led Ireland to a World Cup semi-final if Keane had put Ireland before training facilities and Alex Ferguson. Considering what he had to endure, McCarthy delivered probably the greatest managerial performance in Irish football history. 
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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by Yiksheemash Yiksheemash wrote:

Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

What to say about our Mick really? I suppose we should start with the positive part - thank absolute f*ck we are done with him. Finally. Gone. An abomination of a manager overseeing one of the most appalling campaigns any Irish fan could ever have witnessed. Dross is an understatement. Remember 18 months ago when numerous posters on this forum were arguing that this spoofer was going to have Ireland playing attractive football? Remember that - those were glory days alright. Heady heady times.

His backside in the bacon slicer schtick wore thin over a decade ago for anyone with an ounce of sense, and all you were left with was a bog standard over the hill manager, who was way out of his depth unless operating in the lower realms of any competitive league. League 1 is about his lot at best these days, but I don't expect to see him toiling there anytime soon with the pension pot he picked up from the FAI.

So that's 5 campaigns McCarthy has been part of. 1 qualification. The campaign gone will hopefully be remembered as his signature campaign though. Forgetting Gibraltar, we won 1 game out of 6 qualifiers. The plan to draw ourselves to qualification by praying a concoction of crazy results elsewhere would see us over the line, well that amazingly backfired. A campaign of total non football, completely outdoing any campaign before in that regard. 

Pound for pound, McCarthy TC and RK will go down as one of the most expensive mistakes in Irish football history. Does anyone have the breakdown of the pension pot received, will it total 3 million for McCarthy alone? Excluding possible add-ons if we qualify, you couldn't make it up. Add TC and RK in and are you looking at 4 million for the management team in this campaign LOL My f*cking God, you couldn't make it up. Works out at about 500k per match LOL

I suppose the main thing though is our Mick got his shot at it. A big chunk of the Irish football faithful were delighted to see him back, who would have possibly thought it could play out like this. As for the succession planning, tbf that has worked a treat. Even the Robbie Keane situation looks like it was brilliantly thought through LOL

Bye Mick (our Mick for your official title). Enjoy the millions added to the pension pot that the FAI will be paying off for years in future. You will not be missed one bit, and please don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out. 

Good f*cking riddance.

great post ClapClap 110% spot on

 
McCarthy could have led Ireland to a World Cup semi-final if Keane had put Ireland before training facilities and Alex Ferguson. Considering what he had to endure, McCarthy delivered probably the greatest managerial performance in Irish football history. 


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Originally posted by Yiksheemash Yiksheemash wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by Yiksheemash Yiksheemash wrote:

Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

What to say about our Mick really? I suppose we should start with the positive part - thank absolute f*ck we are done with him. Finally. Gone. An abomination of a manager overseeing one of the most appalling campaigns any Irish fan could ever have witnessed. Dross is an understatement. Remember 18 months ago when numerous posters on this forum were arguing that this spoofer was going to have Ireland playing attractive football? Remember that - those were glory days alright. Heady heady times.

His backside in the bacon slicer schtick wore thin over a decade ago for anyone with an ounce of sense, and all you were left with was a bog standard over the hill manager, who was way out of his depth unless operating in the lower realms of any competitive league. League 1 is about his lot at best these days, but I don't expect to see him toiling there anytime soon with the pension pot he picked up from the FAI.

So that's 5 campaigns McCarthy has been part of. 1 qualification. The campaign gone will hopefully be remembered as his signature campaign though. Forgetting Gibraltar, we won 1 game out of 6 qualifiers. The plan to draw ourselves to qualification by praying a concoction of crazy results elsewhere would see us over the line, well that amazingly backfired. A campaign of total non football, completely outdoing any campaign before in that regard. 

Pound for pound, McCarthy TC and RK will go down as one of the most expensive mistakes in Irish football history. Does anyone have the breakdown of the pension pot received, will it total 3 million for McCarthy alone? Excluding possible add-ons if we qualify, you couldn't make it up. Add TC and RK in and are you looking at 4 million for the management team in this campaign LOL My f*cking God, you couldn't make it up. Works out at about 500k per match LOL

I suppose the main thing though is our Mick got his shot at it. A big chunk of the Irish football faithful were delighted to see him back, who would have possibly thought it could play out like this. As for the succession planning, tbf that has worked a treat. Even the Robbie Keane situation looks like it was brilliantly thought through LOL

Bye Mick (our Mick for your official title). Enjoy the millions added to the pension pot that the FAI will be paying off for years in future. You will not be missed one bit, and please don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out. 

Good f*cking riddance.

great post ClapClap 110% spot on

 
McCarthy could have led Ireland to a World Cup semi-final if Keane had put Ireland before training facilities and Alex Ferguson. Considering what he had to endure, McCarthy delivered probably the greatest managerial performance in Irish football history. 


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It's a stretch say Mick did a good job second time round. The morale was always going to improve when a new manager came in. Settling for a draw in Georgia was inexcusable (not to mention instructing Randolph to take his time kicking it up the field in the dying minutes) and I've a feeling the fact Denmark drew there altered his expectations. 

We finished in the expected third place behind two regular qualifiers and we managed to push Denmark in the last game despite our limited squad. Once Denmark scored they knew we were never going to score two tbh. Mick did okay overall and was at a disadvantage being thrown straight into qualifiers. I don't think we'd have qualified anyway tbh. 
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The biggest problem isn't really his, but it is  the fact that we could have had no manager at all and still finished third and anybody could see we were going to finish third, so the fact there was absolutely no preparation for the play-offs, that we all knew we were going to get, meant a waste of two years.

It was also predictable that there would be 'what ifs' and we would talk about a missed chance here and there, but we were never in a million years going to beat Denmark at home and the fact we got a point over there is a massive stain on the Danes themselves. They should have thumped us.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

The biggest problem isn't really his, but it is  the fact that we could have had no manager at all and still finished third and anybody could see we were going to finish third, so the fact there was absolutely no preparation for the play-offs, that we all knew we were going to get, meant a waste of two years.

It was also predictable that there would be 'what ifs' and we would talk about a missed chance here and there, but we were never in a million years going to beat Denmark at home and the fact we got a point over there is a massive stain on the Danes themselves. They should have thumped us.

Not sure if I'd entirely agree with this. They should've won alright but we were far more fortuitous to get a draw in the playoff game as opposed to this one. We were more deserving of the draw last year imo.
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