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a poor campaign by mick effectively 1 win.
He was hampered by the quality of player available to him.
Stubborn in his selection how he didn’t include Shane long in one squad was a case in point 
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Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

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All he needs now is to find them!

Well I'll bet my house that Molumby starts in Slovakia. So there's one. 
That still doesn’t mean he is going to be good enough. We have potential, but that’s all it currently is. 

I don’t know why anyone is worried about the playoffs being his first game. We had little chance of qualifying and we still have the same chance. We might even have a new manager bounce.

It doesn't mean he's not good enough either, which seems to be your default position on every player. It's Kenny's job to make these calls, and unlike most of our recent managers he will have the bravery to make decisions on players based on their skill rather than their age and how many squads they've been picked for previously (ie less relevant factors which for some reason the likes of Trap and O'Neill were obsessed with).
Until they prove otherwise, potential is just that. We have a tendency to blow players out of proportion early on in hope rather than expectation. 
My default position is one of reality, not baseless expectation. If Ireland player was as good as you made them out to be we would be world champions.
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Originally posted by Fruice Fruice wrote:

a poor campaign by mick effectively 1 win.
He was hampered by the quality of player available to him.
Stubborn in his selection how he didn’t include Shane long in one squad was a case in point 
Was that not down to Robbie? Or is that nonsense?
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

How many jobs will be saved by this decision. All of those who called for mick to stay on should think of that.   This means people will have a job in a years or two years time that wouldnt already have.  

Correct decision from a financial, legal and footballing point of view.  

Thanks mick for your first campaign but nothing was added in the second campaign.  

Just on the financial point it was mentioned at the end of the rte report this evening that if we qualify for euro 2021, mick could be entitled to a bonus alongside his €1.1m for leaving now 
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Originally posted by Fruice Fruice wrote:

a poor campaign by mick effectively 1 win.
He was hampered by the quality of player available to him.
Stubborn in his selection how he didn’t include Shane long in one squad was a case in point 
Was that not down to Robbie? Or is that nonsense?
You would have to hope nonsense and if it was true neither Mick or Robbie should have been in their jobs


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Originally posted by Fruice Fruice wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Fruice Fruice wrote:

a poor campaign by mick effectively 1 win.
He was hampered by the quality of player available to him.
Stubborn in his selection how he didn’t include Shane long in one squad was a case in point 
Was that not down to Robbie? Or is that nonsense?
You would have to hope nonsense and if it was true neither Mick or Robbie should have been in their jobs
I’m not sure Robbie should have ever been given a position. Sentiment shouldn’t be a factor and he never struck me as the type suited to coaching. Then again, neither did Duff and he seems highly regarded.
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Originally posted by Trigboy 10 Trigboy 10 wrote:

Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

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Does Mick not kicking up a fuss not demonstrate he wasn't overly bothered once he got the bag of cash??

Can't win, can he? 
Exactly another typical football manager who only cares about the big bag of cash.

I'm not getting this. Would you prefer if he started kicking up a stink about this? Because if he had plenty would be getting stuck into him about how selfish he was being.

He leaves with dignity and without a fuss and people are calling him a money grabber for his contract being paid. Utterly bizarre stuff. 
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Pleased with this - properly timed and well communicated by the FAI - imagine the garbled nonsense we’d have to put up with the JD regime if they still ran the show.

A bit of sadness as the campaign didn’t work out for Mick, various reasons, him being past his before date being the main one. Always a very decent man so some of the bitter stuff towards him in this thread is disappointing to read.

Hopefully the nations league games will be played in the autumn and before the playoffs so SK can get some games in before Slovakia.
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Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Right call from the FAI.

For those saying Kenny shouldn't be thrown in at the deep end, I personally dont think it really matters if we qualify for Euro 20/21 at this stage.

Great if we do, if not then Kenny has started building his team for the World Cup which takes place just a year later. 

The format, along with Covid-19 has ensured that whenever the next Euros are held, or wherever for that matter, it's going to be overshadowed by a World Cup happening just a year later.

They’ll either push the World Cup out by one year and play it in odd years going forward, in order to keep the two year gap between the two tournaments. Or they’ll have another Euros in 2024 as planned with just a three year gap between European Championships. No way can they just continue on as normal after next year and have nothing for three years and then a Euros and World Cup one after another.


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Originally posted by bundy bundy wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Right call from the FAI.

For those saying Kenny shouldn't be thrown in at the deep end, I personally dont think it really matters if we qualify for Euro 20/21 at this stage.

Great if we do, if not then Kenny has started building his team for the World Cup which takes place just a year later. 

The format, along with Covid-19 has ensured that whenever the next Euros are held, or wherever for that matter, it's going to be overshadowed by a World Cup happening just a year later.

They’ll either push the World Cup out by one year and play it in odd years going forward, in order to keep the two year gap between the two tournaments. Or they’ll have another Euros in 2024 as planned with just a three year gap between European Championships. No way can they just continue on as normal after next year and have nothing for three years and then a Euros and World Cup one after another.

No they won't. Even with the Euros in 2021 there's a still the guts of a year and a half till the next World Cup. 


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Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by belt belt wrote:

Does Mick not kicking up a fuss not demonstrate he wasn't overly bothered once he got the bag of cash??

Can't win, can he? 

haha was thinking the same. 

Has he definitely got that pay off? 
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Second time Mick has been prematurely forced out of the job by a virus that broke out in Asia.
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A campaign which was about par really. Switzerland and Denmark are both far better teams than us (both made the knockouts of the last WC) and we really should have beat Denmark in Dublin. We were really good in that game 
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Originally posted by Trigboy 10 Trigboy 10 wrote:

Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by belt belt wrote:

Does Mick not kicking up a fuss not demonstrate he wasn't overly bothered once he got the bag of cash??

Can't win, can he? 
Exactly another typical football manager who only cares about the big bag of cash.

Embarrassed

I don't begrudge one cent of what Mick earned as our national team manager. He's been an great servant both as a player and manager for us. He certainly doesn't deserve to be portrayed as some sort of mercenary. 
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Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by bundy bundy wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Right call from the FAI.

For those saying Kenny shouldn't be thrown in at the deep end, I personally dont think it really matters if we qualify for Euro 20/21 at this stage.

Great if we do, if not then Kenny has started building his team for the World Cup which takes place just a year later. 

The format, along with Covid-19 has ensured that whenever the next Euros are held, or wherever for that matter, it's going to be overshadowed by a World Cup happening just a year later.

They’ll either push the World Cup out by one year and play it in odd years going forward, in order to keep the two year gap between the two tournaments. Or they’ll have another Euros in 2024 as planned with just a three year gap between European Championships. No way can they just continue on as normal after next year and have nothing for three years and then a Euros and World Cup one after another.

No they won't. Even with the Euros in 2021 there's a still the guts of a year and a half till the next World Cup. 

Not the next World Cup. I meant they won’t have a Euros in 2025 and a World Cup in 2026. They’ll push the World Cup out or bring the Euros back a year.
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Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

Pleased with this - properly timed and well communicated by the FAI - imagine the garbled nonsense we’d have to put up with the JD regime if they still ran the show.

A bit of sadness as the campaign didn’t work out for Mick, various reasons, him being past his before date being the main one. Always a very decent man so some of the bitter stuff towards him in this thread is disappointing to read.

Hopefully the nations league games will be played in the autumn and before the playoffs so SK can get some games in before Slovakia.

Spot on. There are far more deserving candidates for us to bitter about when it comes to the national team and Mick shouldn't be one of them. 








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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Fruice Fruice wrote:

a poor campaign by mick effectively 1 win.
He was hampered by the quality of player available to him.
Stubborn in his selection how he didn’t include Shane long in one squad was a case in point 
Was that not down to Robbie? Or is that nonsense?

What Robbie got to do with it? Whats that story about?
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