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Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

McCarthy's managing a team in contention for promotion to the Premier League next season, whilst Kenny would likely struggle to get so much as an interview with an EFL club at any level. That's the brutal truth of the situation.

Realistically, the yawning chasm in quality is such that no manager simply based on his LoI achievements, however significant, is automatically qualified for the National team job, unfortunately for us. 

In appointing Kenny we've downgraded in a big way. But with our association's lack of financial clout nowadays this is something we'll have to get used to.


Jim Goodwin is doing a good job at St Mirren, and has spoken about his ambitions of managing Ireland, but aside from him, McCarthy and Hughton, there is a shocking lack of Irishmen managing at a decent level - which is generally the case.

I've always wondered why that is. Irish lads with leadership skills and high level experience like John O'Shea, Robbie Keane and Shay Given tend to go into coaching roles whereas there's always an abundance of Scottish and Welsh former players, say, managing at a strong level.

Whenever there's a vacancy for the Scotland job there's always a good few young Scots linked with the role. Beyond the usual three or four, whenever the Ireland job is available we have to look to people like Sam Allardyce or Tony Pulis.
Dan Mcdonnell had a good piece in the indo about young lad at United who certainly looks promising. Long term Brenden Rodgers if when his club career is finished? 
Be interesting to see how Stephen O Donnell develops but you are right it is disappointing 
Obviously Duff will hopefully develop further 
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If the job came up tomorrow Goodwin would probably be the obvious candidate in terms of what the FAI could afford to pay. Realistically the earliest the job will be available is the end of this campaign so there could be others by then, who knows.
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Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

McCarthy's managing a team in contention for promotion to the Premier League next season, whilst Kenny would likely struggle to get so much as an interview with an EFL club at any level. That's the brutal truth of the situation.

Realistically, the yawning chasm in quality is such that no manager simply based on his LoI achievements, however significant, is automatically qualified for the National team job, unfortunately for us. 

In appointing Kenny we've downgraded in a big way. But with our association's lack of financial clout nowadays this is something we'll have to get used to.


Jim Goodwin is doing a good job at St Mirren, and has spoken about his ambitions of managing Ireland, but aside from him, McCarthy and Hughton, there is a shocking lack of Irishmen managing at a decent level - which is generally the case.

I've always wondered why that is. Irish lads with leadership skills and high level experience like John O'Shea, Robbie Keane and Shay Given tend to go into coaching roles whereas there's always an abundance of Scottish and Welsh former players, say, managing at a strong level.

Whenever there's a vacancy for the Scotland job there's always a good few young Scots linked with the role. Beyond the usual three or four, whenever the Ireland job is available we have to look to people like Sam Allardyce or Tony Pulis.

Couldn't disagree with any of that. There's obviously a deficit there, for whatever reason.

Allardyce and Pulis would little doubt improve us, however.
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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

If the job came up tomorrow Goodwin would probably be the obvious candidate in terms of what the FAI could afford to pay. Realistically the earliest the job will be available is the end of this campaign so there could be others by then, who knows.

Goodwin has very little managerial experience. He's nowhere near ready to make the step up to international level. Let's see where he is in 5 years time minimum 
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Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

McCarthy's managing a team in contention for promotion to the Premier League next season, whilst Kenny would likely struggle to get so much as an interview with an EFL club at any level. That's the brutal truth of the situation.

Realistically, the yawning chasm in quality is such that no manager simply based on his LoI achievements, however significant, is automatically qualified for the National team job, unfortunately for us. 

In appointing Kenny we've downgraded in a big way. But with our association's lack of financial clout nowadays this is something we'll have to get used to.


Jim Goodwin is doing a good job at St Mirren, and has spoken about his ambitions of managing Ireland, but aside from him, McCarthy and Hughton, there is a shocking lack of Irishmen managing at a decent level - which is generally the case.

I've always wondered why that is. Irish lads with leadership skills and high level experience like John O'Shea, Robbie Keane and Shay Given tend to go into coaching roles whereas there's always an abundance of Scottish and Welsh former players, say, managing at a strong level.

Whenever there's a vacancy for the Scotland job there's always a good few young Scots linked with the role. Beyond the usual three or four, whenever the Ireland job is available we have to look to people like Sam Allardyce or Tony Pulis.

Couldn't disagree with any of that. There's obviously a deficit there, for whatever reason.

Allardyce and Pulis would little doubt improve us, however.
To improve us over the last 8 games would not be too hard now would it .
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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

If the job came up tomorrow Goodwin would probably be the obvious candidate in terms of what the FAI could afford to pay. Realistically the earliest the job will be available is the end of this campaign so there could be others by then, who knows.

Goodwin has very little managerial experience. He's nowhere near ready to make the step up to international level. Let's see where he is in 5 years time minimum 
The state of our team at the moment I'd say the calibre of players he's dealing with at St Mirren is probably superiorLOL
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the ultimate nightmare for some of the most vocal of the Mick knockers he’s favourite for the Celtic Job!
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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

If the job came up tomorrow Goodwin would probably be the obvious candidate in terms of what the FAI could afford to pay. Realistically the earliest the job will be available is the end of this campaign so there could be others by then, who knows.

Goodwin has very little managerial experience. He's nowhere near ready to make the step up to international level. Let's see where he is in 5 years time minimum 

You say it as if we're in a position to headhunt top level managers.

The reality is the complete opposite, someone like Goodwin, on his current trajectory, would be well out of our reach in five years time. People need to wake up with regard to what market we're shopping in when it comes to managers. If the job was going tomorrow he'd easily be one of the favourites.

Our current manager has only managed for one year in a fully professional league in his whole career, it was well over a decade ago, he finished last in the division and was sacked.
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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

If the job came up tomorrow Goodwin would probably be the obvious candidate in terms of what the FAI could afford to pay. Realistically the earliest the job will be available is the end of this campaign so there could be others by then, who knows.

Goodwin has very little managerial experience. He's nowhere near ready to make the step up to international level. Let's see where he is in 5 years time minimum 

You say it as if we're in a position to headhunt top level managers.

The reality is the complete opposite, someone like Goodwin, on his current trajectory, would be well out of our reach in five years time. People need to wake up with regard to what market we're shopping in when it comes to managers. If the job was going tomorrow he'd easily be one of the favourites.

Our current manager has only managed for one year in a fully professional league in his whole career, it was well over a decade ago, he finished last in the division and was sacked.

If Goodwin was appointed and lost his first few games, you'd be one of the 1st  on here calling for his head, citing a lack of experience. It makes zero sense to jettison Kenny and replace him with someone less experienced, less proven and who has managed at a lower level. Hopefully Goodwin will go on to have a great coaching career but he's only at the beginning of that journey. 

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Mick signed new 2 year contract with Cardiff today. 
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Originally posted by gufct gufct wrote:

Mick signed new 2 year contract with Cardiff today. 

There were Celtic rumours so obviously wanted to head that off. 
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Originally posted by gufct gufct wrote:

Mick signed new 2 year contract with Cardiff today. 
Lose next match. Banker!
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Originally posted by gufct gufct wrote:

Mick signed new 2 year contract with Cardiff today. 

Back a Cardiff loss at the weekend so 
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Originally posted by King_Kenny King_Kenny wrote:

Originally posted by gufct gufct wrote:

Mick signed new 2 year contract with Cardiff today. 
Lose next match. Banker!

Ohhh you beat me to it Sleepy
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playing richard keoghs huddersfield who have won one in 10... 
So ya definetly lose that one after signing contract ha
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Big mick will sign shane duffy in the summer.

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"Tonight is his 1000th game as a manager, he joins a pretty select club in reaching the milestone.

Sam Allardyce, Carlo Ancelotti, Roy Hodgson, Neil Warnock and now you can add McCarthy to the list of managers currently batting at over 1000 not out.

McCarthy himself didn't know tonight was the night, but he forgot about the Anglo-Italian Cup games he managed Millwall in during the early 90s."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/56158746

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Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

"Tonight is his 1000th game as a manager, he joins a pretty select club in reaching the milestone.

Sam Allardyce, Carlo Ancelotti, Roy Hodgson, Neil Warnock and now you can add McCarthy to the list of managers currently batting at over 1000 not out.

McCarthy himself didn't know tonight was the night, but he forgot about the Anglo-Italian Cup games he managed Millwall in during the early 90s."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/56158746

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