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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

My worry for Doherty is especially against the other “top 6” and even against Leicester Everton Southampton pushing on is that Mourinho will see it as too much of a risk to start both himself and Reguilon. 

2 glorified wingbacks playing in a back 4 and unfortunately Reguilon is a stand out player really good so Doherty is the one the suffers. Il be honest I was sure he was planning on using a back 5 or even a 3-4-3 more likely when both Reguilon and Doherty signed as they really would have been tailor made for it the 2 of them. 

Will Doherty start the next day for Spurs who knows but if he doesn’t after Auriers mistake then that sends off alarm bells for me.

Aurier has been one of Spurs top performers this season and has made little to no mistakes, bar yesterday.

It would be extremely harsh on him to be dropped for one mistake.

I've been watching Aurier closely ever since he joined Spurs (I must have done something very bad in a previous life!) and trust me, he has never been one of our "top performers".

After 3 seasons when he was an absolute bomb scare, I was sure that when Doherty arrived, that would be the end of SA at Spurs; indeed they were punting him in France during the summer, but no-one had the money to sign him/pay his wages.

Now as it happens, Doherty hasn't (yet) performed as we had all hoped, and this season Aurier has been better than anything we've seen from him previously (not exactly hard, tbf). But if Mourinho has managed to instill a degree of discipline in Aurier's play this season, I really can't see it ever being permanent - as yesterday's fit of the head staggers proved. So whether he's back in the team for forthcoming games, or even the rest of the season, I'm sure JM has him on his list of departures, just as soon as it can be managed and a replacement in place.

As for Doherty, there is no way on earth that JM would agree to a signing just to accommodate his/their Agent and even if he did, no way Levy would permit it.

I have no doubt that Doherty was seen as the attacking RB Moutinho wanted to go with the attacking LB he got in Reguilon. (With a deep defensive block of Alderweirald and Dier behind two CDM's in Sissoko and Hjobjerg, all in front of a stay-on-your-line gk like Lloris, then JM clearly wants to see his FB's in this Spurs team attack more than he did with previous teams).

But even if he originally wanted Doherty, Mourinho is still quite capable of taking against a player who's not responding as he wishes, and dumping him again just as quickly. Which is not to write Doherty off just yet, but he really needs to get some games soon, ideally in the PL, to write himself back into Mourinho's plans, otherwise he risks being out the door with Aurier.

The January window will be interesting.


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i would say aurier is a very poor defensively , even more than doherty who is not a natural for defensive instinct
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Originally posted by Four-Four-Two Four-Four-Two wrote:

doherty was dropped for no mistakes , so why not ? they have pretty much traded places every time spurs lost this season 

Aurier is a better defender in a back four than Doherty and that's the long and the short of it.


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doherty was dropped for no mistakes , so why not ? they have pretty much traded places every time spurs lost this season 

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Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

My worry for Doherty is especially against the other “top 6” and even against Leicester Everton Southampton pushing on is that Mourinho will see it as too much of a risk to start both himself and Reguilon. 

2 glorified wingbacks playing in a back 4 and unfortunately Reguilon is a stand out player really good so Doherty is the one the suffers. Il be honest I was sure he was planning on using a back 5 or even a 3-4-3 more likely when both Reguilon and Doherty signed as they really would have been tailor made for it the 2 of them. 

Will Doherty start the next day for Spurs who knows but if he doesn’t after Auriers mistake then that sends off alarm bells for me.

Aurier has been one of Spurs top performers this season and has made little to no mistakes, bar yesterday.

It would be extremely harsh on him to be dropped for one mistake.
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My worry for Doherty is especially against the other “top 6” and even against Leicester Everton Southampton pushing on is that Mourinho will see it as too much of a risk to start both himself and Reguilon. 

2 glorified wingbacks playing in a back 4 and unfortunately Reguilon is a stand out player really good so Doherty is the one the suffers. Il be honest I was sure he was planning on using a back 5 or even a 3-4-3 more likely when both Reguilon and Doherty signed as they really would have been tailor made for it the 2 of them. 

Will Doherty start the next day for Spurs who knows but if he doesn’t after Auriers mistake then that sends off alarm bells for me.
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Doherty will start the next game id wager a bet


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Doherty will start the next game id wager a bet
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Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Winks brought on for Aurier.

Question. Did Mourinho even want Doherty or was the signing forced upon him? I know Jorge Mendes was heavily involved in it and, as is common in British football now, there was a lot of politics behind the scenes in getting this deal done.

Question: did you watch the game?

Spurs were 2-0 down and Jose only had one sub left.
Taking of a RB who gave away a stupid penalty for a midfielder was an attacking strategy to try and get something from the game.

Why would he swap Aurier for Doherty at 2-0 down.

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Winks brought on for Aurier.

Question. Did Mourinho even want Doherty or was the signing forced upon him? I know Jorge Mendes was heavily involved in it and, as is common in British football now, there was a lot of politics behind the scenes in getting this deal done.
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Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by King_Kenny King_Kenny wrote:

Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by aviva8 aviva8 wrote:

Not in squad today, anyone know why ?

Didn’t think he would start as he started on Thursday. They won 4-0 so I would say it’s just using the entire squad rather than anything else. 

Lots of games coming up over Xmas so need to rotate the players. 

FA Cup and europa league for Matt until Aurier gets injured or loses form.

Based on what?

Before the international break Doherty played in the last 3 EPL games against Brighton, Burnley and West Brom.

He missed the Man City game due to COVID but played the next EL match. 
 

Pretty much it and Aurier played in the game last week against City which they won hence Aurier getting the nod here nothing much in it. Aurier no doubt will mess up completely again soon like he tends to do. 😂
 


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Originally posted by King_Kenny King_Kenny wrote:

Aurier had a brain fart there!

Yes, Doherty will be first choice again. 

Absolutely no need to give away a penalty in that position.

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Aurier had a brain fart there!
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Aurier wasn't bad in fairness but I'm surprised he wasn't taken off with 10/15 to go. He looked like he was knackered and had started to commit stupid fouls around the Spurs box.
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Surprised at the praise Aurier is getting for last night. Admittedly I only saw the highlights but he was caught out several times - almost all of Liverpool's chances came down his side. Was he just getting let down by Sissoko in front of him maybe?

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He will get back in. Aurier and him have traded the starting spot a couple of tikes already this season, it will only take one bad game for that to happen again.
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Yea he seems to have improved defensively this season Aurier
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Doherty has played all of the Europa games on a Thursday and aurier games during the week.  Aurier has been immense tonight.   Doherty may play at the weekend. 
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