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Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Originally posted by Sono Sono wrote:

Chris Hughton a better candidate for me, a young manager who plays attractive ball, MON plays similar style to Trap.


He doesn't really. 
Trap is a 4-4-2 man with full backs instructed not to overlap or pass halfway much

MON used 3-5-2 for a lot of his managerial career 

Incorrect, all of his time at Sunderland he played 4-4-1-1. Which is a bit of a problem considering we couldn't work that system against a team like Wales.

Wingers play very old fashioned, none of the cut inside stuff
Lone forward is not usually a target man type but a hold the ball type (Emile Heskey at his time at Villa or Bendtner at Sunderland) Doyle is probably the best candidate we have for that..

Thats why i said a lot. 
Leicester and Celtic he was 3-5-2 

Villa i think he changed to 4-3-3 if i remember correctly, with Agbonlahor and Young on the wings and Carew through the middle 
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Chris Hughton a better candidate for me, a young manager who plays attractive ball, MON plays similar style to Trap.
I'm a fan of Hughton but I know last seasopn when they were having their slump a lot of fans were critical of the ultra cautious defensive style of football.  Remind you of anybody??? A worry also is that it took Norwich a long time to turn it around.  When you only get 5 days to work with and develop a system and tactics would Hughton suit? 

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Originally posted by stokes78 stokes78 wrote:

O Neill would hopefully embrace the idea of northern footballers playing for their country with their southern brothers.  FAI and senior management should actively and openly be going after northern lads from under 16 level to play for us as is their right. None of this nonsense of not aproaching players. A lad from Derry should b no different than a lad from cork and should be invited openly to underage squads if good enough
 
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Its looking like MON is target no. 1 for the FAI. Whatever about the style of football - it couldnt be as bad to watch or as one dimensional as Traps. Aswell, he is known for his man mangagement skills (non existent with trap) and getting the best out of average squads (Celtic, Leicster, Villa) thats exactly what we need.
 
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M'ON would be a great chice.  He plays decent football and as has been said likes his wingers.  With Brady, McClean, McGeady, "Pilks" it's our one area of strength right now LOL
 
He gave Wycombe, Leicester, Celtic and Villa fans the best days they have ever had or had for a long time.  He needs a good right hand man with him though.  It is worth noting Robertson was not with him at Sunderland, the one club he failed at (he quit Norwich after a row).  Communication and man-management were major issues under Trap and I don't see that being a problem under M'ON. 
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how about liam brady as his number 2, would that work?
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Originally posted by GREENISLE GREENISLE wrote:

how about liam brady as his number 2, would that work?

After he said all our young lads are poor, id doubt it


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Originally posted by erimus erimus wrote:

Originally posted by GREENISLE GREENISLE wrote:

how about liam brady as his number 2, would that work?


After he said all our young lads are poor, id doubt it



when he say that, the other night after the match? i just feel he would be good in some role maybe give him the role of youth developement then.
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O'Neill is not the man for the job and I will give the reasons why.

Similar style of play to Trap - we may end up again hoofing the ball to 2 big lads upfront.

The absence of John Robertson - Robertson is the brains behind the success of O'Neill.

Not developing youth players - he was never a fan of using young players, always brought in and used older experienced players.

Only using a small selection of players - whilst at Celtic he only ever used a group of about 12/13 players. There will be uproar on this forum when he excludes a long list of names.

Not giving players a chance - he never gave fringe players a chance. (Westwood being the most notable one from an Irish perspective).

Tactically naive - never won away in Europe and threw away 2 league titles on the last day of the season.

He is a very good motivator and will inspire the players, but I think Ireland needs more than inspired players. We need a manager that can out-think the opposition due to the average selection of players available

A tactically astute manager with an attacking system is what we need.
     
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Pretty much said it after the match

For me Id have him nowhere near the rte studio never mind the team.
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Personally Martin O'Neill would be a very uninspiring choice for me. Would like a manager who actually has international experience. Feel if Denis O'Brien is putting the cash forward again, than we should cast the net out a lot further and not rush into any knee-jerk decisions.
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Originally posted by savo01 savo01 wrote:

M'ON would be a great chice.  He plays decent football. 
 
He most certainly does not.
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

O'Neill is not the man for the job and I will give the reasons why.

Similar style of play to Trap - we may end up again hoofing the ball to 2 big lads upfront.

The absence of John Robertson - Robertson is the brains behind the success of O'Neill.

Not developing youth players - he was never a fan of using young players, always brought in and used older experienced players.

Only using a small selection of players - whilst at Celtic he only ever used a group of about 12/13 players. There will be uproar on this forum when he excludes a long list of names.

Not giving players a chance - he never gave fringe players a chance. (Westwood being the most notable one from an Irish perspective).

Tactically naive - never won away in Europe and threw away 2 league titles on the last day of the season.

He is a very good motivator and will inspire the players, but I think Ireland needs more than inspired players. We need a manager that can out-think the opposition due to the average selection of players available

A tactically astute manager with an attacking system is what we need.


names then hb,who you reckon? at least a shortlist of 3.
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http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/international/martin-oneill-can-be-steady-pair-of-hands-for-republic-of-ireland-29572915.html

Think there is a mistake in the first line though LOL


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-12/o-neill-is-targeted-to-coach-ireland-mail-says-soccer-roundup.html

Approach will be made in the next 48 hours!



http://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/fai-set-approach-martin-oneill-2268143



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Originally posted by GREENISLE GREENISLE wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

O'Neill is not the man for the job and I will give the reasons why.

Similar style of play to Trap - we may end up again hoofing the ball to 2 big lads upfront.

The absence of John Robertson - Robertson is the brains behind the success of O'Neill.

Not developing youth players - he was never a fan of using young players, always brought in and used older experienced players.

Only using a small selection of players - whilst at Celtic he only ever used a group of about 12/13 players. There will be uproar on this forum when he excludes a long list of names.

Not giving players a chance - he never gave fringe players a chance. (Westwood being the most notable one from an Irish perspective).

Tactically naive - never won away in Europe and threw away 2 league titles on the last day of the season.

He is a very good motivator and will inspire the players, but I think Ireland needs more than inspired players. We need a manager that can out-think the opposition due to the average selection of players available

A tactically astute manager with an attacking system is what we need.


names then hb,who you reckon? at least a shortlist of 3.


Rene Meulensteen, Bob Bradley and Bruce Arena are 3 candidates worth talking too.

All the candidates listed are definitely not worth considering.

I also believe that the FAI should look abroad again for a coach.
     
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by GREENISLE GREENISLE wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

O'Neill is not the man for the job and I will give the reasons why.

Similar style of play to Trap - we may end up again hoofing the ball to 2 big lads upfront.

The absence of John Robertson - Robertson is the brains behind the success of O'Neill.

Not developing youth players - he was never a fan of using young players, always brought in and used older experienced players.

Only using a small selection of players - whilst at Celtic he only ever used a group of about 12/13 players. There will be uproar on this forum when he excludes a long list of names.

Not giving players a chance - he never gave fringe players a chance. (Westwood being the most notable one from an Irish perspective).

Tactically naive - never won away in Europe and threw away 2 league titles on the last day of the season.

He is a very good motivator and will inspire the players, but I think Ireland needs more than inspired players. We need a manager that can out-think the opposition due to the average selection of players available

A tactically astute manager with an attacking system is what we need.


names then hb,who you reckon? at least a shortlist of 3.


Rene Meulensteen, Bob Bradley and Bruce Arena are 3 candidates worth talking too.

All the candidates listed are definitely not worth considering.

I also believe that the FAI should look abroad again for a coach.

i reckon that JD is in the jacks at abbots town choking his chicken at the thoughts of oneill being under him.
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People should be delighted if o'neill gets the job,its not exactly a highly sought after job in football
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The merits of O'Neill style are open to discussion but what he does achieve is understanding his players and playing to their strengths. He will bring enthusiasm, passion and experience to the job as well as a comprehension of irishness and the irish psyche. And fundamenatally he wont alck in confidence and will offer players positivity instead of negativity.
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Originally posted by jinky jinky wrote:

People should be delighted if o'neill gets the job,its not exactly a highly sought after job in football
 
We've never had a problem getting someone to do the job before Confused
 
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