Martin O'Neill...

Remember the uproar about Trap not going to watch players, well this is nearly as bad as that.

I'm surprised nothing is been said about it.

How is a manger supposed to know the oppositions weakness if there's no preparation or how we'll play?

horsebox wrote: Trap junior wrote: https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/richie-sadlier-let-s-not-kid-ourselves-nobody-wants-to-play-us-1.3255392 Kerr wrote something similar too. http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/i-take-little-pleasure-or-satisfaction-from-seeing-ireland-play-like-minnows-on-the-back-foot-constantly-36225955.html

Was gonna post that Kerr piece earlier. It's hard to disagree with a lot of it. I've been very critical about O'Neill, I don't like the style of play and the fact we keep conceding possession and don't generally attempt to change that. Soon as we went ahead on Monday, we made no attempt to be constructive and basically gsve them full possession and said break us down if you can.

But, he's got so many results against higher ranked opposition that it can no longer be just put down as luck. Much as we're generally sh*te against teams we should dominate, we have consistently done it when the chips are down and we need the result. Whether it's man management or what is irrelevant. We've beaten Germany, Bosnia, Italy, Austria and Wales the last couple of years having not had comparable results since the McCarthy era. That's ultimately the bottom line.

Roberto Baggio wrote: Remember a few weeks ago a few on this thread some were wishing we could be a bit more like Scotland as they beat Lithuania and malta 🤡

Who was that? Think you might be telling a few porkies now.

Stickittotheman wrote: Stoked Up wrote: This was not a tough group, but it is a tight group of 4 sides that are somewhere between the top and the bottom of the second seed European bracket and throw in a couple of 5/6 seeds who are at the top of their respective piles. Clearly we've lost our way with recent results, but all is not lost yet. I still find it bizarre that we'd look to fire a manager that could get us second place (provided we do) in a qualifying group. As I've pointed out before, you have to go back to '88 for the one and only time this was bettered by an Irish side. As it happens, I wouldn't be surprised if he walks away.  Whoever gets the gig, will somehow have to form the scatter of mostly championship standard players that we now have, into better collective ones. I find it remarkable that some people are lauding championship strikers as potential saviours when we have one such player playing a division above who can't hit a barn door or take up enough positions to score at his club.  You make good points but I am fed up hearing that our players arent good enough. Isnt the championship ranked like 8-9 in Europe. Ffs most of the Scotland team play in the SPL and championship they are going well at the minute. Dont even start on the North. We have the players there to put in a showing a damn site better than they have been. We are relying on the old guard to much and its starting to show.

Bump for trap jnr

MC Hammered is in the elite of ybig posters, if talking a bit of sense is the criteria. Which obviously, it isn't, so he should be sacked from ybig. 

MC Hammered wrote: https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/oct/14/martin-oneill-is-in-the-managerial-elite-even-if-a-top-job-eludes-him

I found the quote from John Robertson interesting.  How his knowledge of the insurance industry was not very good but he came across when he was selling that he knew the business inside out.

Exactly my thoughts on his management too.

Roberto Baggio wrote: Stickittotheman wrote: Roberto Baggio wrote: Are Scotland really going that much better than us at the minute?     I wouldnt say they are individual players wise but there last 4 games are 2-0 against Malta, 3-0 against Lithuania, 2-2 with England and 1-0 against Slovenia. Ours are 0-0 with Wales, 1-1 with Austria, 1-1 with Georgia and 0-1 against Serbia. I know who the team bang on form is. The point I was making is they are getting good results and playing well. We are not getting results or playing well. Thats the managers fault. Bump for trap

And where did I suggest we play like Scotland in this post? They were bang in form we werent. They then sh*t themselves- we took advantage. Thank f**k.

Lucky General. 50% chance of having to go Italy and we don't get them

Edited by Denis Irwin - 17 Oct 2017 at 1:17pm

How exactly has he been lucky throughout his career again?
Dunphy banging on about that on the radio again