Martin McHugh in The Star

McHugh is dead right, singing at 4-0 down, i felt like crying watching that performance, not singing.

Baldrick wrote: Sono wrote: ericdogg wrote: I would take being in the second round of the competition than being known for singing songs. I think there is justification in the view/opinion that it was embarrassing. German TV may be banging on about how great Ireland fans are win/lose or draw but at the same time they are now looking at the game in September as 3 easy points.   And before all the sensitive soles on here start banging on...singing songs doe snot make you more/less a bigger fan. I like to sing at Ireland games but I am more concerned with whats happening on the pitch. I had waited my whole life to go see Ireland play at a tournament and my heart had been wrenched out. Agree with all of this, f**k this best fans in the world tag, give me that second round clash with England any day. its not an either or though Sono.  Having great fans does not make you crap at football.   We would all love to have a much better team that went with better tactics  But we are not in controll of that, what we are in control of is our behaviour.

What it feels like to me is other countries are saying 'we cant believe how much you guys support your country when you are so sh*t'

For me it feels like others are laughing at us but maybe that's just me.

I was there and sang my heart out while the tears where falling. No one there was celebrating, it just happened and it was magical. It is something I will never forget

Edited by ScotsIrish - 21 Jun 2012 at 1:56pm

Kingkeano16 wrote: Irish2011 wrote: McHugh is dead right, singing at 4-0 down, i felt like crying watching that performance, not singing. A lot of people were doing both. Were you at the game? It seems that the television representation of what went on is a little different to the actual events.

yes i was there and i can tell you there were plenty who didnt think it was a lament. The fai and trap didnt think so either as they have used it as vindication for the embarassment we endured on the field. The lads dancing around on the big screen at 4-0 down missed the point as well i think.

its funny there was no laments during the stan era. 

great ambassadors for bord failte yes, supporters of or football team? Your having a laugh, we couldnt even sell out the home leg of the playoff against estonia ffs.

Citizen wrote: Kingkeano16 wrote: Irish2011 wrote: McHugh is dead right, singing at 4-0 down, i felt like crying watching that performance, not singing. A lot of people were doing both. Were you at the game? It seems that the television representation of what went on is a little different to the actual events.  yes i was there and i can tell you there were plenty who didnt think it was a lament. The fai and trap didnt think so either as they have used it as vindication for the embarassment we endured on the field. The lads dancing around on the big screen at 4-0 down missed the point as well i think. its funny there was no laments during the stan era.  great ambassadors for bord failte yes, supporters of or football team? Your having a laugh, we couldnt even sell out the home leg of the playoff against estonia ffs.

Sono wrote: Baldrick wrote: Sono wrote: ericdogg wrote: I would take being in the second round of the competition than being known for singing songs. I think there is justification in the view/opinion that it was embarrassing. German TV may be banging on about how great Ireland fans are win/lose or draw but at the same time they are now looking at the game in September as 3 easy points. And before all the sensitive soles on here start banging on...singing songs doe snot make you more/less a bigger fan. I like to sing at Ireland games but I am more concerned with whats happening on the pitch. I had waited my whole life to go see Ireland play at a tournament and my heart had been wrenched out. Agree with all of this, f**k this best fans in the world tag, give me that second round clash with England any day. its not an either or though Sono. Having great fans does not make you crap at football.    We would all love to have a much better team that went with better tactics But we are not in controll of that, what we are in control of is our behaviour. What it feels like to me is other countries are saying 'we cant believe how much you guys support your country when you are so sh*t' For me it feels like others are laughing at us but maybe that's just me.

No, it's not just you. There's another 4 or 5 posters that have the same cynical outlook and seem to have spent every thread from before and after the tournament whinging and moaning about something.

That's about it though, the rest of us seem to be able to see if for what is was, defiance and the fact that we'd have been more embarrassed at being outsung by the Spanish support given that they made up about 15% of the crowd tops.

Not one person was happy with the performances and we'd all sooner have made a mark due to our football rather than the conduct of our fans but as has been pointed out, it's not an either or situation.

Edited by Drumcondra 69er - 21 Jun 2012 at 2:08pm

ericdogg wrote: Sono wrote: Baldrick wrote: Sono wrote: ericdogg wrote: I would take being in the second round of the competition than being known for singing songs. I think there is justification in the view/opinion that it was embarrassing. German TV may be banging on about how great Ireland fans are win/lose or draw but at the same time they are now looking at the game in September as 3 easy points.   And before all the sensitive soles on here start banging on...singing songs doe snot make you more/less a bigger fan. I like to sing at Ireland games but I am more concerned with whats happening on the pitch. I had waited my whole life to go see Ireland play at a tournament and my heart had been wrenched out. Agree with all of this, f**k this best fans in the world tag, give me that second round clash with England any day. its not an either or though Sono.  Having great fans does not make you crap at football.   We would all love to have a much better team that went with better tactics  But we are not in controll of that, what we are in control of is our behaviour.  What it feels like to me is other countries are saying 'we cant believe how much you guys support your country when you are so sh*t' For me it feels like others are laughing at us but maybe that's just me.   No you're not alone Sono. The laughing stock of European football and thats not the fans fault but the continued singing aggravates the view other nations will have that we are totally uncompetitive. But we are the singing army who don't really care if we win or lose.

Kingkeano16 wrote: ericdogg wrote: Sono wrote: Baldrick wrote: Sono wrote: ericdogg wrote: I would take being in the second round of the competition than being known for singing songs. I think there is justification in the view/opinion that it was embarrassing. German TV may be banging on about how great Ireland fans are win/lose or draw but at the same time they are now looking at the game in September as 3 easy points. And before all the sensitive soles on here start banging on...singing songs doe snot make you more/less a bigger fan. I like to sing at Ireland games but I am more concerned with whats happening on the pitch. I had waited my whole life to go see Ireland play at a tournament and my heart had been wrenched out. Agree with all of this, f**k this best fans in the world tag, give me that second round clash with England any day. its not an either or though Sono. Having great fans does not make you crap at football.    We would all love to have a much better team that went with better tactics But we are not in controll of that, what we are in control of is our behaviour. What it feels like to me is other countries are saying 'we cant believe how much you guys support your country when you are so sh*t' For me it feels like others are laughing at us but maybe that's just me. No you're not alone Sono. The laughing stock of European football and thats not the fans fault but the continued singing aggravates the view other nations will have that we are totally uncompetitive. But we are the singing army who don't really care if we win or lose. That's fcuking Bullsh*t. I cared just as much as any fan in that stadium. I didn't feel like singing but I did it because I thought it was the right thing to do. Sick of listening to this sh*t that because we sang we didn't care. I went straight back to the hotel after and went to bed. I was gutted. But obviously it meant more to superfans like you who didn't sing.

I'd put money on the fact that none of them thought that at the time and is was only following Keane's comments that these opinions were formed.....

the day after the croatia game, on sky sports news, the reporter asked a group of irish fans, so are you disappointted with the result? The guys response was its 10.30 and were on our 4th pint, the party has only just begun.

another group singing in gdansk singing 'were on here for the party'

this sh*t riles me, as i like many here were there for the football