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Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

Do you worry his lack of stature and pace will hold him back though?
I feel they're his main issues, and shares those limitations with Kilkenny, another nice similar footballer.



Pity he wasted those three years at Celtic. Could have been playing at a higher level with a decent championship team maybe rather than League One atm.

Just wasted 1.5 years I think. He was on loan at Queens Park for the rest. 

I went along to their two League One play-off games v Airdrie at the end of last season and he really stood out. Airdrie were quite physical but he handled it fine. He looked to be the sharpest player on the pitch in the second leg. I knew the name alright but only knew he was playing after the game when I looked the teams up.

I thought they might have tried to keep him when the season finished because they're on course to get promoted as champions to the SPL so he could have (potentially) become an important player for them.
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Being on loan at Queens Park still wasn't great though. They were in the Scottish fourth tier when he went there first. He needed to be playing at a higher level than that. He should never have gone anywhere near Celtic and to be honest I'd be a bit disappointed in Coleman for advising him that it would be a good move (which he apparently did).

There's a nice piece on him here:


One small thing though, he does know he's overage for our Under 21 team, right? It's not entirely clear from the article. The Yorkshire Post certainly doesn't anyway.


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He's 21 and almost 22. Plenty people say here that he shouldn't have gone to Celtic and that he wasted x years and it gets repeated in this thread. I assume the lad is strong enough mentally to not be weighed down by regrets!

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Good piece there, thanks. Really encouraging.

Probably not in the grand scheme of things but it would have been good to have a bit of stability and regular football through the different divisions in a competitive side. In an ideal world he'd have got that experience at a younger age and been further along in his development but you can understand the appeal of a Celtic to a kid.

Anyway the main thing is he's playing regularly now and has plenty of time to get into the squad. 

(I was hopeful that Johnny Kenny might have had similar success at Queens Park but I don't think he was ever going to displace Simon Murray). 
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A lot of the teams that have qualified are calling up 22/23 year olds this week- maybe that’s where the confusion has arisen…
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Originally posted by giveittochristie giveittochristie wrote:

A lot of the teams that have qualified are calling up 22/23 year olds this week- maybe that’s where the confusion has arisen…

Yeah, which is ridiculous.

The rule used to be that 22/23 year olds could play at European U21 Championships if they were 21 or under during qualifier games.

It lead to teams stacked with 21-23 year olds with huge experience. Spain had Javi Martínez (22) and Juan Mata (23) playing in 2011, which was a year after they won The World Cup with the senior national team.
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Originally posted by Banana_RepublicFC Banana_RepublicFC wrote:

Originally posted by giveittochristie giveittochristie wrote:

A lot of the teams that have qualified are calling up 22/23 year olds this week- maybe that’s where the confusion has arisen…

Yeah, which is ridiculous.

The rule used to be that 22/23 year olds could play at European U21 Championships if they were 21 or under during qualifier games.

It lead to teams stacked with 21-23 year olds with huge experience. Spain had Javi Martínez (22) and Juan Mata (23) playing in 2011, which was a year after they won The World Cup with the senior national team.
I had a look at the Spanish team last night for their friendly with the Swiss and they had 2 21 year olds, 6 22 year olds and 3 23 year olds. Seems a little silly, and suggests at this stage they’re more interested in winning the tournament than player development. Not sure how many benchwarming (at club level) 22/23 year olds are likely to get a full cap in the future


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Originally posted by giveittochristie giveittochristie wrote:

Originally posted by Banana_RepublicFC Banana_RepublicFC wrote:

Originally posted by giveittochristie giveittochristie wrote:

A lot of the teams that have qualified are calling up 22/23 year olds this week- maybe that’s where the confusion has arisen…


Yeah, which is ridiculous.

The rule used to be that 22/23 year olds could play at European U21 Championships if they were 21 or under during qualifier games.

It lead to teams stacked with 21-23 year olds with huge experience. Spain had Javi Martínez (22) and Juan Mata (23) playing in 2011, which was a year after they won The World Cup with the senior national team.

I had a look at the Spanish team last night for their friendly with the Swiss and they had 2 21 year olds, 6 22 year olds and 3 23 year olds. Seems a little silly, and suggests at this stage they’re more interested in winning the tournament than player development. Not sure how many benchwarming (at club level) 22/23 year olds are likely to get a full cap in the future



Winning the tournament is development though for them. Remember Germany had some top players who won the U21s for them and then formed the spine of their senior team which won the WC five years later.

You're gaining the experience of playing in tournament football.
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It can also be a good way to tie players to countries in certain situations. For instance if England were to call up any 21, 22 or 23 year olds who qualified for Ireland through their grandparents, they can use the tournament to tie them to England.
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2 assists Today 
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He’s having some season. Even if Barnsley don’t go up they have to have a huge chance in the play offs given their form. 

Form team in the League and they do have Ipswich at home so that 4 point gap isn’t insurmountable. 

If they don’t Connell looks a prime candidate for progressive ball playing Championship clubs. 
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Both assists came from corners. Hopefully he can push on next season and try break into the senior squad. His deliveries from set pieces would be a major positive for us.
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Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Form team in the League and they do have Ipswich at home so that 4 point gap isn’t insurmountable.

Form team   ?

Ipswich haven't lost since February lad, won nine times in twelve with ten clean sheets & thirty one goals, don't be talking out your hole about Form teams without looking at it.
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Originally posted by Scissors Kick Scissors Kick wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Form team in the League and they do have Ipswich at home so that 4 point gap isn’t insurmountable.

Form team   ?

Ipswich haven't lost since February lad, won nine times in twelve with ten clean sheets & thirty one goals, don't be talking out your hole about Form teams without looking at it.
 

Fair enough Ipswich a strong case for being the form team over them! 

Barnsley have won 12 of their 16 games since February scoring 41 goals in those 16 games. They are playing as well since that period not to mention Ipswich would have been fancied a lot more to be promoted initially! 




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Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Originally posted by Scissors Kick Scissors Kick wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Form team in the League and they do have Ipswich at home so that 4 point gap isn’t insurmountable.

Form team   ?

Ipswich haven't lost since February lad, won nine times in twelve with ten clean sheets & thirty one goals, don't be talking out your hole about Form teams without looking at it.
 

Fair enough Ipswich a strong case for being the form team over them! 

Barnsley have won 12 of their 16 games since February scoring 41 goals in those 16 games. They are playing as well since that period not to mention Ipswich would have been fancied a lot more to be promoted initially! 




Ipswich visit them soon enough, will be a pressure game, a lot on it. Great division again, L1 this season, real title race & a squeezy play off battle too. Ipswich with win after win & clean sheets galore and still aren't top.  
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Originally posted by Scissors Kick Scissors Kick wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Originally posted by Scissors Kick Scissors Kick wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Form team in the League and they do have Ipswich at home so that 4 point gap isn’t insurmountable.

Form team   ?

Ipswich haven't lost since February lad, won nine times in twelve with ten clean sheets & thirty one goals, don't be talking out your hole about Form teams without looking at it.
 

Fair enough Ipswich a strong case for being the form team over them! 

Barnsley have won 12 of their 16 games since February scoring 41 goals in those 16 games. They are playing as well since that period not to mention Ipswich would have been fancied a lot more to be promoted initially! 




Ipswich visit them soon enough, will be a pressure game, a lot on it. Great division again, L1 this season, real title race & a squeezy play off battle too. Ipswich with win after win & clean sheets galore and still aren't top.  








 

Yeah was only thinking about how mad it seems Plymouth are still on top. Plymouth have on paper at least a pretty nice run in if they are good enough. Shrewsbury away and Cambridge fighting relegation about as awkward as it gets.Burton Bristol are reasonably safe with little to play for and Port Vale likely will be by the final game. 

As for Connell he’s having a brilliant season have to think a move up a division is reasonable for him even if Barnsley don’t go up.
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Connell was given the young player of the season award for Barnsley.

I still feel he'll be a senior international and was totally wasted at Celtic, a graveyard for Irish youngsters
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Originally posted by Mr. Snrub Mr. Snrub wrote:

Connell was given the young player of the season award for Barnsley.

I still feel he'll be a senior international and was totally wasted at Celtic, a graveyard for Irish youngsters


Whatever these star footy awards are but Luca Connell was named Barnsley player of the year and as well as getting the clubs young player of the season.

https://twitter.com/BarnsleyFC/status/1656016980426596361

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