London Tower Block fire

sid waddell wrote: irishmufc wrote: Little bit harsh on the Tories Sid as there'll probably be a miniscule Tory demographic in that tower that'll vote for them but if you're going to be negligent on fire regulations, then at least it'll be probable Corbynites or anyone but the tories voters who'll go up in flames. Every cloud has a silver lining and all that Well, put it this way - that's Labour's majority in Kensington literally gone up in smoke.

The Express doesn't let the fact that this cladding is banned in Germany get in the way of using this tragedy for an Anti EU Rant.

Also banned in the US. You know there's questions to answer when even the Americans think that cladding is too dangerous to be used

The Sun going into full Hillsborough mode as well

You've got it spot on PM. Sadly, I think this is now the world we live in where partisan politics becomes the go to position for people in the wake of a tragedy like this. The numbers of lives lost has not even been ascertained and social media and the general
Media have been all over every single political aspect of this, while people have not even been located let alone identified.

This is an unbelievably sad, appalling and horrific tragedy which necessitates full public scrutiny, oversight and deliberation. However, the focus ought to be on the victims and the irreparable damage that has come into their lives.

Het-field wrote: You've got it spot on PM. Sadly, I think this is now the world we live in where partisan politics becomes the go to position for people in the wake of a tragedy like this. The numbers of lives lost has not even been ascertained and social media and the general Media have been all over every single political aspect of this, while people have not even been located let alone identified. This is an unbelievably sad, appalling and horrific tragedy which necessitates full public scrutiny, oversight and deliberation. However, the focus ought to be on the victims and the irreparable damage that has come into their lives.

Edited by pre Madonna - 16 Jun 2017 at 12:00pm

Commons leader Andrea Leadsom went out. It wouldn't be like May to send someone else out to when the going gets tough, all the while she was on the phone to her friends in Saudi Arabia and Qatar

sid waddell wrote: This IS political.  It's as political as it gets.  It's about how "health and safety" has been demonised. It's about how"red tape", "nanny state" and "unnecessary regulations" (all deliberately pejorative phrases) have been demonised.  It's about how "light touch regulation" (a "positive" phrase) has been treated as gospel. Criminally negligent regulation is a far more accurate phrase. It's about how working class people, immigrants, the poor, the unemployed and the disabled (a disabled 70 year woman living on the 23rd floor, anyone?) have been demonised and not listened to. I really don't get how some people are having a hard time understanding that.  And we all know which party and which section of the media takes by far the lion's share of the blame for that. They created the culture where this sort of thing and Hillsborough are allowed to happen.

pre Madonna wrote: sid waddell wrote: This IS political.  It's as political as it gets.  It's about how "health and safety" has been demonised. It's about how"red tape", "nanny state" and "unnecessary regulations" (all deliberately pejorative phrases) have been demonised.  It's about how "light touch regulation" (a "positive" phrase) has been treated as gospel. Criminally negligent regulation is a far more accurate phrase. It's about how working class people, immigrants, the poor, the unemployed and the disabled (a disabled 70 year woman living on the 23rd floor, anyone?) have been demonised and not listened to. I really don't get how some people are having a hard time understanding that.  And we all know which party and which section of the media takes by far the lion's share of the blame for that. They created the culture where this sort of thing and Hillsborough are allowed to happen. Of course it is, but there is a time and a place to politicise it! That is the point. I actually think that by immediately politicising it, before the death count has even been finalised, you are fuelling the belief that these people's lives are unimportant. Much like Hillsborough, something Britain appears to have learnt nothing from. By politicising the deaths of people you, and so many more in the media, are dehumanising them.  So, when the next tragedy comes around, caused by reasons we both know, we end up with two sides of the media flinging faeces at each other while people mourn and questions that should have been asked, or even were asked, get lost in the maelstrom of sh*t.