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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Yellow Belly Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2015 at 9:38am
Yea to bring them in line with the senior LOI I think.
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Correct.
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I see a LOI club advertising U17 trials on the 1st june can they hold trials as the players are this years u16's' and U15's are still signed to their schoolboy clubs until the 30th June.  Thought players can only trial for other clubs on the 1st of July and after that date.
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Originally posted by deise deise wrote:

I see a LOI club advertising U17 trials on the 1st june can they hold trials as the players are this years u16's' and U15's are still signed to their schoolboy clubs until the 30th June.  Thought players can only trial for other clubs on the 1st of July and after that date.
I think the U-17 League allows for dual-registration so that may bypass this rule.
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Originally posted by AnCearrbhach AnCearrbhach wrote:

Originally posted by deise deise wrote:

I see a LOI club advertising U17 trials on the 1st june can they hold trials as the players are this years u16's' and U15's are still signed to their schoolboy clubs until the 30th June.  Thought players can only trial for other clubs on the 1st of July and after that date.


I think the U-17 League allows for dual-registration so that may bypass this rule.

Yes similar to Cabinteely raiding the LSL outside the transfer window.
Different rules for 'summer' leagues.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote deise Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2015 at 1:20pm
Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Originally posted by AnCearrbhach AnCearrbhach wrote:

Originally posted by deise deise wrote:

I see a LOI club advertising U17 trials on the 1st june can they hold trials as the players are this years u16's' and U15's are still signed to their schoolboy clubs until the 30th June.  Thought players can only trial for other clubs on the 1st of July and after that date.


I think the U-17 League allows for dual-registration so that may bypass this rule.

Yes similar to Cabinteely raiding the LSL outside the tranfer window.
Different rules for 'summer' leagues.

I can understand the one re LSL but with schoolboys aren't allowed to trial until July why are the FAI not providing info on the LOI U17 and how it going to affect schoolboy  and Junior clubs.  What are these players suppose to do to avoid the usual flak that's going to come from their schoolboy/junior clubs if they turn up in June for U17 trials.
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Private loi19.com announce that FAI have announced Interim U19 season 9 August 2015 to December 2015
http://loi19.com/index.php/latest-news/256-interim-season-information

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http://loi19.com/index.php/latest-news/257-loi17-com-is-born

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Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Originally posted by AnCearrbhach AnCearrbhach wrote:

Originally posted by deise deise wrote:

I see a LOI club advertising U17 trials on the 1st june can they hold trials as the players are this years u16's' and U15's are still signed to their schoolboy clubs until the 30th June.  Thought players can only trial for other clubs on the 1st of July and after that date.


I think the U-17 League allows for dual-registration so that may bypass this rule.

Yes similar to Cabinteely raiding the LSL outside the transfer window.
Different rules for 'summer' leagues.
 
Checked this out the last day - no dual-registration.  Only allowed to sign for the LOI side.  You can sign for a side when their "window" is open.  So, if LOI window is open in June/July, clubs can sign players then. 
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Originally posted by harps1954 harps1954 wrote:

Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Originally posted by AnCearrbhach AnCearrbhach wrote:

Originally posted by deise deise wrote:

I see a LOI club advertising U17 trials on the 1st june can they hold trials as the players are this years u16's' and U15's are still signed to their schoolboy clubs until the 30th June.  Thought players can only trial for other clubs on the 1st of July and after that date.


I think the U-17 League allows for dual-registration so that may bypass this rule.

Yes similar to Cabinteely raiding the LSL outside the transfer window.
Different rules for 'summer' leagues.
 
Checked this out the last day - no dual-registration.  Only allowed to sign for the LOI side.  You can sign for a side when their "window" is open.  So, if LOI window is open in June/July, clubs can sign players then. 

So there can be no backlash from schoolboys clubs when their players go for U17 trials?
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Originally posted by deise deise wrote:

Originally posted by harps1954 harps1954 wrote:

Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Originally posted by AnCearrbhach AnCearrbhach wrote:

Originally posted by deise deise wrote:

I see a LOI club advertising U17 trials on the 1st june can they hold trials as the players are this years u16's' and U15's are still signed to their schoolboy clubs until the 30th June.  Thought players can only trial for other clubs on the 1st of July and after that date.


I think the U-17 League allows for dual-registration so that may bypass this rule.

Yes similar to Cabinteely raiding the LSL outside the transfer window.
Different rules for 'summer' leagues.
 
Checked this out the last day - no dual-registration.  Only allowed to sign for the LOI side.  You can sign for a side when their "window" is open.  So, if LOI window is open in June/July, clubs can sign players then. 

So there can be no backlash from schoolboys clubs when their players go for U17 trials?
 
That's a different matter altogether. 
 
There is no dual-registration, so the player will have to either sign for the LOI club or the Schoolboy club.  As for the trials, that's probably up to the player themselves (or the schoolboy club).  A bit like players going across the water I'm sure who are signed with clubs but go on trial at the cross-channel clubs. 
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For trials you have to get clearance from FAI (DDSL).
Same as travelling for Easter tournaments.
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15th May 2015

The Football Association of Ireland today named the clubs which will participate in its new SSE Airtricity U17 National League.

The new National League will provide another step on Ireland’s elite player pathway. Its establishment will bridge the gap between schoolboy football which runs up to U16 level and the SSE Airtricity U19 league which is now firmly established as a springboard for young talented players into adult football.

The SSE Airtricity U17 National League will offer elite players, many of whom will have graduated from the FAI’s Emerging Talent Programme, their first opportunity to play in a national league, as well as a chance to train, practice and play at an elite level in this age group.

For players at 16 years of age who do not sign for cross channel clubs, it provides an opportunity to move to elite level within Ireland, following in the footsteps of the many players who have gone on to successful professional and international careers after committing to continuing their development through the SSE Airtricity League.

Following receipt of expressions of interest, the U17 National League working group has been engaged in a detailed assessment phase during recent months. The working group reviewed aspects such as facilities, coaching qualifications, and in particular player pathway, with an emphasis on structures linking to senior football. The working group also took geographical location and strategic development of the game nationally into account when making its decisions.

In all, 22 clubs will compete, including 19 SSE Airtricity League clubs (excluding Galway United), as well as Mervue United, Salthill Devon, and the Monaghan United Cavan Football Partnership.

The first season will be truncated, running from August to December, to facilitate the move to a single calendar season. The second season will run alongside the SSE Airtricity League season, from April to November 2016. Clubs will compete in three sections nationally, as shown below:

Section 1: Bray Wanderers, UCD, Cork City, Cobh Ramblers, Limerick, Waterford United, Wexford Youths, Cabinteely

Section 2: Shamrock Rovers, St Patrick's Athletic, Mervue United, Salthill Devon, Athlone Town, Longford Town, Sligo Rovers

Section 3: Derry City, Finn Harps, Shelbourne, Monaghan United Cavan FP, Drogheda United, Dundalk, Bohemians

Each team will play the other teams in their Group on a home and away basis in the first truncated season comprising twelve fixtures.  The top two teams in each Group plus the two best third-placed teams will qualify for the quarter finals and the knock out stages.

Speaking today, FAI High Performance Director, Ruud Dokter said,

“This is an important improvement to the elite player pathway. With the reforms to the Emerging Talent Programme that came in last September catering for the U11 to U16 age groups, the SSE Airtricity U17 National League will give elite players a national platform to play, and develop in Ireland.

“Previously, we might have lost some elite players at this age group, if they didn’t progress into cross channel academy structures.  The SSE Airtricity U17 National League will provide an appropriate pathway for these elite players to continue their development on the pathway, through the SSE Airtricity U19 League to a senior career in professional football.”

In addition, the FAI Board has approved new regulation for Domestic Compensation following discussions with representatives from schoolboy football and the SSE Airtricity League clubs.

This will bring about two changes.

Firstly, under the previous regulation, the club(s) which trained a player from the age of 12 to the age when that player became professional were entitled to €500 per season.

This amount has now been reduced on an agreed sliding scale as follows:

Registered with Club for:

Season of player’s 12th birthday: €400

Season of player’s 13th birthday: €400

Season of player’s 14th birthday: €300

Season of player’s 15th birthday: €300

Season of player’s 16th birthday: €150

Season of player’s 17th birthday: €150

Season of player’s 18th birthday: €150

Season of player’s 19th birthday: €150

Season of player’s 20th birthday: €150

Season of player’s 21st birthday: €150

Season of player’s 22nd birthday: €150

Season of player’s 23rd birthday: €150

Does not apply after season of a player’s 23rd birthday.

Secondly, under the new agreement, if the player is transferred between Associations after becoming professional, the training clubs will receive up to 60% of the transfer fee as follows:

Player is transferred within 12 months of change of status: 60% of transfer fee

Player is transferred within 24 months of change of status: 45% of transfer fee

Player is transferred within 36 months of change of status: 20% of transfer fee

Player is transferred within 48 months of change of status: 10% of transfer fee

This new agreement has been approved by the FAI Board of Management and ratified by FIFA.

END

No  Kerry Team promise of dual registration must have been a white lie from FAI.





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So they have a Sligo team, 2 Galway teams and refused a Mayo team. Yeah, they are very serious about Elite development. 
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Thanks for that detailed breakdown of the U-17 league "deise". Didnt know much about it till I read a piece on the Hoops website. Sounds like a great idea and hopefully it`ll help more kids to stay at home and finish their education, instead of taking a punt at some academy across the water and drifting into oblivion. The Cavan/Monaghan merger should be interesting, considering that pair knock the bejaysis out of each other on a gaa pitch :)
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The Monaghan United Cavan Football Partnership (or MUCkers) are delighted to announce a formal educational link shortly with The Caavan College of Furder Spud Peelin' hoy..

Good to see Mons involved, and finally we get some sensible regionalisation that needs application to the Premier Division Sub-leagues next..

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