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    Posted: 05 Feb 2015 at 12:57pm
LOI U17 any news if this league going to start at all this year or is it going to be put back for the 2 year? What LOI Clubs putting teams in and what Junior/Schoolboy Clubs are going to enter it if they're allowed?
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It is my understanding it happens next season and is LoI only and all LoI clubs have to enter a team.
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Correct as part of the licensing agreement all LOI sides must have an u17 side, I would much prefer if they started at u11 and worked there way up to u17 rather take a full squad of players from local leagues just fulfill an obligation.
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Originally posted by John W John W wrote:

Correct as part of the licensing agreement all LOI sides must have an u17 side, I would much prefer if they started at u11 and worked there way up to u17 rather take a full squad of players from local leagues just fulfill an obligation.
That will happen in time. The FAI have to take a gradual approach to stop the schoolboy clubs openly revolting.
 
I fear a number of clubs will see it as an obligation and vote it out in time, like the reserve league, U21's, A championship etc.
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Isn't it suppose to start in September? From what I've heard U16's will still be able to play with their own schoolboy team and also play LOI U17 is this true.
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http://www.fai.ie/domestic/news/fai-seeks-expressions-of-interest-for-national-u17-league

Says here FAI are looking for other clubs to express interest who are non-LOI. Would imagine it will be similar to current under 19 league in terms of teams. There are only 3 non LOI teams in the under 19s though so can't imagine under 17s will have anymore (Letterkenny, Salthill and Mervue).

Also says it starts August 2015.
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Would these be in a full time league or similar to the old League Cup with a small group and then knockout?
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Well the 19s is two divisions, north and south so can't see why they would move away from that. What would make sense is to try and have the same teams in both 17s and 19s leagues and have the same fixtures on same days, makes it easier for clubs to travel long distance plus at least there be some kind of crowd for the kids to play in front of.
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Only LoI clubs will be entering this for the first year, and then non-League clubs will be considered. Starting this year.
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[QUOTE=MayoMark] Only LoI clubs will be entering this for the first year, and then non-League clubs will be considered. Starting this year.

But wasn't advertised as expression of interest from Clubs not just league of Ireland clubs.
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Understand it's to start in September with a short season to December. Then to bring it into line with the new calendar year set up to start again in March. But I don't knew if the players who play in this short season will be under age for the new season in March. If they are not it's a pity we have been waiting for this for 3years.Why not wait until March and start then.
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But doesn't the U19 LOI run from Sept to March so why can't the U17. Does anyone know if U16 schoolboys can still play with their own clubs and also play U17 LOI I heard this is the case but not sure how correct is the information.

A junior club I know express an interest in joining the U17 leagues but were told that it could not happen as a LOI team was so close to their caption area it couldn't sustain two LOI teams. The junior team don't want to pass their schoolboys players on to a LOI club after spending years putting time and effort into these players for them to reap the rewards. I'm sure this is going to be the same all around the country.
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Originally posted by Yellow Belly Yellow Belly wrote:

Does anyone know if U16 schoolboys can still play with their own clubs and also play U17 LOI I heard this is the case but not sure how correct is the information.


Surely U-17 will have to be a case of dual registration or the junior clubs will go daft.

I actually think this is a really good idea if its done properly.

[/QUOTE] I fear a number of clubs will see it as an obligation and vote it out in time, like the reserve league, U21's, A championship etc.[/QUOTE]

The underage teams idea is coming from Ruud Dokter (FAI performance director) its his plan to go to U-15 next and id imagine after they are established U-13 and U-11 leagues wont be far behind. Its unlikely clubs will be let vote it out as it would look bad for Dokter.

Its accepted by all the top coaches in the world that if a kid hasn't been taught the basics by 12 years old he's not going to learn them after that. The Irish underage coaches regularly talk about getting 16 and 17 year old lads into teams and having to teach them how to take a touch, its the equivalent of going to secondary school and having to be taught how to add and subtract.

It also makes far more sense to spend a bit of money on developing a few youth teams that a club could get a couple of players out of every year than giving some has been 2 grand a week.

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What's the feelings regard the new League from the leading Schoolboy clubs in Dublin the likes of Skbfc Joey's Belvo etc are they going to oppose it.
Not much info about the new league.

Edited by deise - 03 Mar 2015 at 1:37pm
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The Kerry district league unanimously agreed last night to enter a team for the U17s after an invitation from the FAI. The KDL will be in discussions with the FAI in the coming days and weeks about this but from what iv heard from the KDL chairman, he expects duel registration to be allowed. Id be pretty sure the KDL would have being informed of this from the FAI as the clubs would have opposed it otherwise. Great news for Kerry football and a step in the right direction. Funding from the FAI was mentioned for costs such as travelling but I don't have a clue how this would work or will it be granted   
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Originally posted by PanteirA PanteirA wrote:

The Kerry district league unanimously agreed last night to enter a team for the U17s after an invitation from the FAI. The KDL will be in discussions with the FAI in the coming days and weeks about this but from what iv heard from the KDL chairman, he expects duel registration to be allowed. Id be pretty sure the KDL would have being informed of this from the FAI as the clubs would have opposed it otherwise. Great news for Kerry football and a step in the right direction. Funding from the FAI was mentioned for costs such as travelling but I don't have a clue how this would work or will it be granted   


That's superb news and could be a serious development for the league as a whole. If we could get the likes of the Mayo League, Tipperary League etc to follow suit getting them to put a senior side in the league would be the next logical step.
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Joeys have linked up with UCD to enter a team in this by all accounts.
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