Liam Miller Memorial Match- Tues 25th Sep

Shedite wrote: The problem with most games these day is that they're contracted to be somewhere, people have paid for corporate boxes, naming rights, 10 year seating to Croker/Landsdowne so it's tough to move games. The big one now would be if Munster gets a "home country" game in European Cup, would they be able to keep it in Munster rather than having to go to Dublin every time.

With the Aviva I think the IRFU can't move senior games away because of the sponsorship with Aviva. Could assume it's the same with the FAI. There's probably ways around that like classing the games as non test matches were caps aren't given out like Ireland A games, testimonials, B games for the FAI. Was that Ireland game in Turners Cross before Euro 2016 a full senior international with caps?

Munster Rugby should try and get their next home quarter final played in Cork because they've got control of that. What you pay in rent you likely make up in extra ticket sales.

Semi finals might be different because I know before the semis were organised by the EPCR, who the IRFU are part of and any use of the Aviva for semi finals meant the EPCR had to pay the IRFU rent for use of the stadium. So they likely won't want to lose rent to the GAA.



Edited by J89 - 11 Nov 2022 at 2:02pm

rebelbrowser wrote: J89 wrote: Shedite wrote: The problem with most games these day is that they're contracted to be somewhere, people have paid for corporate boxes, naming rights, 10 year seating to Croker/Landsdowne so it's tough to move games. The big one now would be if Munster gets a "home country" game in European Cup, would they be able to keep it in Munster rather than having to go to Dublin every time. With the Aviva I think the IRFU can't move senior games away because of the sponsorship with Aviva. Could assume it's the same with the FAI. There's probably ways around that like classing the games as non test matches were caps aren't given out like Ireland A games, testimonials, B games for the FAI. Was that Ireland game in Turners Cross before Euro 2016 a full senior international with caps? Munster Rugby should try and get their next home quarter final played in Cork because they've got control of that. What you pay in rent you likely make up in extra ticket sales. Semi finals might be different because I know before the semis were organised by the EPCR, who the IRFU are part of and any use of the Aviva for semi finals meant the EPCR had to pay the IRFU rent for use of the stadium. So they likely won't want to lose rent to the GAA. Yeah, Belarus match was a full international alright. Ireland also played full internationals in Thomond too a few years back (was at a grim 3-0 loss to Australia if memory serves). There are ways and means. PuC could be our Sevilla, the stadium we bring certain teams to in order to discomfort them. I mean Sevilla and Cork are so similar in so many ways..... well sort of...... well a bit anyway.....ish....

Aviva was still being redeveloped when we played in TP.

rebelbrowser wrote: J89 wrote: Shedite wrote: The problem with most games these day is that they're contracted to be somewhere, people have paid for corporate boxes, naming rights, 10 year seating to Croker/Landsdowne so it's tough to move games. The big one now would be if Munster gets a "home country" game in European Cup, would they be able to keep it in Munster rather than having to go to Dublin every time. With the Aviva I think the IRFU can't move senior games away because of the sponsorship with Aviva. Could assume it's the same with the FAI. There's probably ways around that like classing the games as non test matches were caps aren't given out like Ireland A games, testimonials, B games for the FAI. Was that Ireland game in Turners Cross before Euro 2016 a full senior international with caps? Munster Rugby should try and get their next home quarter final played in Cork because they've got control of that. What you pay in rent you likely make up in extra ticket sales. Semi finals might be different because I know before the semis were organised by the EPCR, who the IRFU are part of and any use of the Aviva for semi finals meant the EPCR had to pay the IRFU rent for use of the stadium. So they likely won't want to lose rent to the GAA. Yeah, Belarus match was a full international alright. Ireland also played full internationals in Thomond too a few years back (was at a grim 3-0 loss to Australia if memory serves). There are ways and means. PuC could be our Sevilla, the stadium we bring certain teams to in order to discomfort them. I mean Sevilla and Cork are so similar in so many ways..... well sort of...... well a bit anyway.....ish....

Apologies, thought Thomand matches were more recent.

Maccatacca wrote: Disgraceful that they were allowed to spend 100 million euro to build a substandard stadium.

It's not substandard, it's a perfect GAA stadium. They never aimed for UEFA Cat 3 or 4

sausy wrote: Borussia wrote: rebelbrowser wrote: Apologies, thought Thomand matches were more recent. More generally though, I think it's a better stadium than a lot of you think.  A lot of the stuff you don't see - dressing rooms, media facilities, PA system, premium level,  etc are excellent. By way of illustration I was at a talk by the CEO of Vodafone who put in the mobile connectivity and she said it was a state of the art system more advanced than most stadiums in the world  - and to be fair who can stream thinks from your seat whilst in other stadia (CP for example) you can struggle to get texts. It could hold Euros a lot easier than TJ says I suspect. You could put bucket seats in if necessary presumably. A roof is not a necessity. Nor would you need to move the pitch - those of us who were at the Saudi match in the 2002 WC will remember the stand behind the goal in Yokohama was about 100m from the pitch (the opposite goal was miles away) and it has held a WC and Rugby WC final.  I haven't researched this but I suspect far more basic stadiums held matches in Greece 04 and Portugal 08. Been discussed numerous times on this forum - Bucket seats aren't allowed anymore. Long since been the case. The hospitality and media facilities are nowhere close to good enough to meet the standards for a major tournament. A stadium has to be UEFA Category 4 to host a game at the Euros - If you google the specs of that category it's clear where the issues are.  I reckon he means seating can be installed easily like it was done on Hill 16, not the scaffolding job that LR used to have. I haven't been in it since it was redeveloped but can't see why it's getting abuse off people on here. The pitch was a disgrace when it opened, and I think Croke Park had to take over to sort that but done now. It's fulfills the purpose it was designed for.

sausy wrote: Borussia wrote: It doesn't really matter which type it is - UEFA don't allow this any more for major tournaments.  I don't know the UEFA rules but any seating installed would be permanent seats making the terraces uncovered stands. Just more than likely if it was ever done that they'd reverse it back.

Cant see any issue if the sets are properly installed and foxed to the structure. Every seat in every stadium is bolted to the concrete.