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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Sure he's played and scored for the England u18 vs Wales last week ffs.

His decision is pretty clear but we continue to try to convince ourselves 


 

Delap if he plays with us at all will essentially be a Che Adam’s job I think. Combination of Ireland actually looking like doing something and his career being decent but regular English caps being out the question. 

I wouldn’t be as pretentious about that as some we have had plenty marvellous servants with looser ties to Ireland but plenty are. A few in Scotland a bit put out at the Che Adam’s situation as well. 

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Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Sure he's played and scored for the England u18 vs Wales last week ffs.

His decision is pretty clear but we continue to try to convince ourselves 


 

Delap if he plays with us at all will essentially be a Che Adam’s job I think. Combination of Ireland actually looking like doing something and his career being decent but regular English caps being out the question. 

I wouldn’t be as pretentious about that as some we have had plenty marvellous servants with looser ties to Ireland but plenty are. A few in Scotland a bit put out at the Che Adam’s situation as well. 

They probably like the idea of a national team.
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I think a few years ago when Gordon McQueen was doing his nut at the disgrace of two Scottish born players , McGeady and McCarthy turning out for Ireland against their country of birth, there was about 5 English born players turning out for Scotland in the same game. McQueen saw nothing wrong with that of course. 
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The English players playing for Scotland were/are Brits, as are the Scots. It's a nonsense that they have four teams anyway, one "Kingdom" one team is the way it should be.

A few Scottish nationalists I know share that view - too many in the tartan army happy to proclaim their Scottishness in football but not so much when it comes to an independence vote.


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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

The English players playing for Scotland were/are Brits, as are the Scots. It's a nonsense that they have four teams anyway, one "Kingdom" one team is the way it should be.

A few Scottish nationalists I know share that view - too many in the tartan army happy to proclaim their Scottishness in football but not so much when it comes to an independence vote.

Don't get me started u numpty. England Scotland Wales have existed as separate associations for more than 100 years. Don't pretend Ireland is completely separate. Second and I've said it on here millions of times. Uk isn't a country   its a kingdom of  countries.  So yes they should be separate 
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Originally posted by Englishborn Englishborn wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

The English players playing for Scotland were/are Brits, as are the Scots. It's a nonsense that they have four teams anyway, one "Kingdom" one team is the way it should be.

A few Scottish nationalists I know share that view - too many in the tartan army happy to proclaim their Scottishness in football but not so much when it comes to an independence vote.

Don't get me started u numpty. England Scotland Wales have existed as separate associations for more than 100 years. Don't pretend Ireland is completely separate. Second and I've said it on here millions of times. Uk isn't a country   its a kingdom of  countries.  So yes they should be separate 

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Originally posted by Englishborn Englishborn wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

The English players playing for Scotland were/are Brits, as are the Scots. It's a nonsense that they have four teams anyway, one "Kingdom" one team is the way it should be.

A few Scottish nationalists I know share that view - too many in the tartan army happy to proclaim their Scottishness in football but not so much when it comes to an independence vote.

Don't get me started u numpty. England Scotland Wales have existed as separate associations for more than 100 years. Don't pretend Ireland is completely separate. Second and I've said it on here millions of times. Uk isn't a country   its a kingdom of  countries.  So yes they should be separate 

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Originally posted by longford claret longford claret wrote:

I think a few years ago when Gordon McQueen was doing his nut at the disgrace of two Scottish born players , McGeady and McCarthy turning out for Ireland against their country of birth, there was about 5 English born players turning out for Scotland in the same game. McQueen saw nothing wrong with that of course. 
 

Yes and while I do see the point people are making I think to not want to be milking the granny rule to our advantage is a bit pretentious. You would hope with the crazy pool of talent England are developing or in underage squads that might work in our favour too down the line.

A few players like Robinson or even a bit better like Che Adam’s may declare for us due to this. Important of course that’s used as a supplement to the homegrown talent we are producing and not as a crutch like the last 10-15 years. 


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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

The English players playing for Scotland were/are Brits, as are the Scots. It's a nonsense that they have four teams anyway, one "Kingdom" one team is the way it should be.

A few Scottish nationalists I know share that view - too many in the tartan army happy to proclaim their Scottishness in football but not so much when it comes to an independence vote.

100% agree.

It's no big deal for an English man to play for Scotland or Wales, they don't need a different passport or anything.
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Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

The English players playing for Scotland were/are Brits, as are the Scots. It's a nonsense that they have four teams anyway, one "Kingdom" one team is the way it should be.

A few Scottish nationalists I know share that view - too many in the tartan army happy to proclaim their Scottishness in football but not so much when it comes to an independence vote.

100% agree.

It's no big deal for an English man to play for Scotland or Wales, they don't need a different passport or anything.

An English man doesn't have a different passport but you can't just play for Scotland if you have no connections with Scotland. They still need to have at least a grandparent who's from the country.
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Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by Englishborn Englishborn wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

The English players playing for Scotland were/are Brits, as are the Scots. It's a nonsense that they have four teams anyway, one "Kingdom" one team is the way it should be.

A few Scottish nationalists I know share that view - too many in the tartan army happy to proclaim their Scottishness in football but not so much when it comes to an independence vote.

Don't get me started u numpty. England Scotland Wales have existed as separate associations for more than 100 years. Don't pretend Ireland is completely separate. Second and I've said it on here millions of times. Uk isn't a country   its a kingdom of  countries.  So yes they should be separate 

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Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

The English players playing for Scotland were/are Brits, as are the Scots. It's a nonsense that they have four teams anyway, one "Kingdom" one team is the way it should be.

A few Scottish nationalists I know share that view - too many in the tartan army happy to proclaim their Scottishness in football but not so much when it comes to an independence vote.

100% agree.

It's no big deal for an English man to play for Scotland or Wales, they don't need a different passport or anything.

An English man doesn't have a different passport but you can't just play for Scotland if you have no connections with Scotland. They still need to have at least a grandparent who's from the country.

Which is the equivalent of a Dubliner having a granny from Galway.
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Originally posted by Englishborn Englishborn wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

The English players playing for Scotland were/are Brits, as are the Scots. It's a nonsense that they have four teams anyway, one "Kingdom" one team is the way it should be.

A few Scottish nationalists I know share that view - too many in the tartan army happy to proclaim their Scottishness in football but not so much when it comes to an independence vote.

Don't get me started u numpty. England Scotland Wales have existed as separate associations for more than 100 years. Don't pretend Ireland is completely separate. Second and I've said it on here millions of times. Uk isn't a country   its a kingdom of  countries.  So yes they should be separate 

Head along to the UN there like a good lad and try to find England and see how you get on. 

“You Tell Me”. You are dead right regarding Scotland.  I said the same here nearly 10 years ago based on extensive chats with mates in Tartan Army and SNP. I was shot down by a good few but it’s still true,  the existence of the Scottish football team gives a get out to the soft independence vote.  If it was taken away,  what would happen then. 
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Originally posted by Englishborn Englishborn wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

The English players playing for Scotland were/are Brits, as are the Scots. It's a nonsense that they have four teams anyway, one "Kingdom" one team is the way it should be.

A few Scottish nationalists I know share that view - too many in the tartan army happy to proclaim their Scottishness in football but not so much when it comes to an independence vote.

Don't get me started u numpty. England Scotland Wales have existed as separate associations for more than 100 years. Don't pretend Ireland is completely separate. Second and I've said it on here millions of times. Uk isn't a country   its a kingdom of  countries.  So yes they should be separate 

Yes, it is - that's exactly what it is, a country, just like France or Germany or Australia or Ireland or any other country. British exceptionalism at its finest there.

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