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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wes_Wanderers Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Dec 2020 at 6:17pm
Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Originally posted by Four-Four-Two Four-Four-Two wrote:

this is the first time i have argued with anyone about clark ? the only insecurity i can see is of those who try to twist logic to say guys like clark are mercenary . personal speaking, i actualy do not care if a player has their only identity as irish so long as they give maximum effort for the team , but with a player such as clark it is simple mean spiritedness and spite that would lead to questioning of their motives . this is a clear example of a 20 year old premiership defender - in other words a novice for this position yet still playing at the highest standard - choosing ireland over england despite having previously captained england and their career being on the up . this is a clear example of a player not known to the fai going to them and initiating the process themself . all of this points to their preference , it is not a case of a middle twenties division two player deciding to play for ireland, it is obviously something different. to try and portray clark and those like him of not feeling irish and having only a career motive needs you to suspend your disbelief and throw out all the logic and facts of the case which suggest otherwise . impartiality and prejudice will lead to this though


You used to post as The O'Shea. now that you post everything about irish and eligible footballers in small caps you think everyone will be too stupid to realise you set up a new account after getting banned for trolling. You kept logging in and appearing in the "members online" section  after getting banned and as soon as your new account was created, you stopped logging in under your old one. LOL

He wasn't a "regular" when he declared for Ireland either. He started 16 games the season he declared for us and he started 13 games the season after. I explained this to you under your old account but you refuse to listen - just like you refused to listen when I politely pointed out to you that he wasn't playing for England when he declared for us.

I even threw in the following quote from Clark: "I was England Under-18 captain but I didn't think I was going anywhere really with that."

And of course you manage to somehow contort that into a way that fits your agenda.

Clark being pretty much the only outlier in the last 20 years who you could use to fit your narrative - and it turns out even his reasons for declaring for us are because he (rightly) couldn't foresee a future with England, as outlined in the article I linked.

Hold on a minute, you tracked O'Shea's online status at a time when you were also banned, noting when they were on regularly or not? Jesus I always thought you were the one talking sense who was unlucky to be banned, but you both seem to as bad as each other in hindsight
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hotlips_Hoolahan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Dec 2020 at 6:26pm
Originally posted by Wes_Wanderers Wes_Wanderers wrote:

Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Originally posted by Four-Four-Two Four-Four-Two wrote:

this is the first time i have argued with anyone about clark ? the only insecurity i can see is of those who try to twist logic to say guys like clark are mercenary . personal speaking, i actualy do not care if a player has their only identity as irish so long as they give maximum effort for the team , but with a player such as clark it is simple mean spiritedness and spite that would lead to questioning of their motives . this is a clear example of a 20 year old premiership defender - in other words a novice for this position yet still playing at the highest standard - choosing ireland over england despite having previously captained england and their career being on the up . this is a clear example of a player not known to the fai going to them and initiating the process themself . all of this points to their preference , it is not a case of a middle twenties division two player deciding to play for ireland, it is obviously something different. to try and portray clark and those like him of not feeling irish and having only a career motive needs you to suspend your disbelief and throw out all the logic and facts of the case which suggest otherwise . impartiality and prejudice will lead to this though


You used to post as The O'Shea. now that you post everything about irish and eligible footballers in small caps you think everyone will be too stupid to realise you set up a new account after getting banned for trolling. You kept logging in and appearing in the "members online" section  after getting banned and as soon as your new account was created, you stopped logging in under your old one. LOL

He wasn't a "regular" when he declared for Ireland either. He started 16 games the season he declared for us and he started 13 games the season after. I explained this to you under your old account but you refuse to listen - just like you refused to listen when I politely pointed out to you that he wasn't playing for England when he declared for us.

I even threw in the following quote from Clark: "I was England Under-18 captain but I didn't think I was going anywhere really with that."

And of course you manage to somehow contort that into a way that fits your agenda.

Clark being pretty much the only outlier in the last 20 years who you could use to fit your narrative - and it turns out even his reasons for declaring for us are because he (rightly) couldn't foresee a future with England, as outlined in the article I linked.

Hold on a minute, you tracked O'Shea's online status at a time when you were also banned, noting when they were on regularly or not? Jesus I always thought you were the one talking sense who was unlucky to be banned, but you both seem to as bad as each other in hindsight


Sham gave me a 1 or 2 week ban (I can't remember which) so I kept logging in to see if it had elapsed, and every time I logged in, O'Shea was online. For some reason I couldn't access the site even after my ban had ended (at which point 4-4-2 started posting and O'Shea mysteriously vanished) but I logged in about a fortnight ago and it worked.

I used to post on foot.ie. I can guarantee you 4-4-2 (The O'Shea) never posted there. He would've stood out if he did. LOL

And fine, Sham, I won't engage with him anymore.


Edited by Hotlips_Hoolahan - 15 Dec 2020 at 6:30pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wes_Wanderers Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Dec 2020 at 6:35pm
Mate, that level of vigilance sounds insane though. I was one of the posters who brought it to the mods attention you had been banned too long as I thought you brought some good opinions to the forum, but I'm beginning to question that action on my part. I would have thought with the likes of O'Shea spamming love letters to Harry Arter gone you would focus more on posting your useful football opinions than getting into heated arguments, but instead it's taken you no time at all to find a "new O'Shea" to argue with.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DeclanDaly Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Dec 2020 at 6:36pm
Oh good God - that propagandhi clown was posting crap years ago on Greenscene. Now it all makes sense 
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Originally posted by Scissors Kick Scissors Kick wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

WTF are we even talking about this fella for anyway. Hes got nowt to do with us. NOWT!!!!!!

Ah the irony of using nowt is lost on you isn't it  ?
Nowt is Anglo English and not Hiberno English, which us Irish speak. 
But carry on. 

No its a word they use in the Yorkshire/Lancashire area which Manchester is in. Ok. Now take your irony and shove it up your ho#e.

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What on earth is going on here?!

Back to topic lads! 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote irishmufc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Dec 2020 at 8:03pm
53 new posts and absolutely nothing new on Liam Delap. LOL
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Grown men arguing over a teenage boy. Embarrassing 
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"Pep Guardiola has confirmed that youth star striker Liam Delap (18) will join the first-team squad permanently next season"
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/man-city-confirm-new-first-20311269
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Left foot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Apr 2021 at 4:29pm
Originally posted by DublinScouse1916 DublinScouse1916 wrote:

"Pep Guardiola has confirmed that youth star striker Liam Delap (18) will join the first-team squad permanently next season"
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/man-city-confirm-new-first-20311269

I would think this belongs in the ROW thread... while sober, this guy will never select ireland

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DeclanDaly Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Apr 2021 at 4:50pm
Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Originally posted by DublinScouse1916 DublinScouse1916 wrote:

"Pep Guardiola has confirmed that youth star striker Liam Delap (18) will join the first-team squad permanently next season"
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/man-city-confirm-new-first-20311269

I would think this belongs in the ROW thread... while sober, this guy will never select ireland

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Originally posted by Scissors Kick Scissors Kick wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Originally posted by Scissors Kick Scissors Kick wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

WTF are we even talking about this fella for anyway. Hes got nowt to do with us. NOWT!!!!!!

Ah the irony of using nowt is lost on you isn't it  ?
Nowt is Anglo English and not Hiberno English, which us Irish speak. 
But carry on. 

No its a word they use in the Yorkshire/Lancashire area which Manchester is in. Ok. Now take your irony and shove it up your ho#e.

LOLLOL

You got summink else to say   ?    You've got nowt have you   ?   

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I'm a lancastrian.  I've never used that word.  I've nowt left to add
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JoxerDaly Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Apr 2021 at 8:13am
I wouldnt rule Delap out just yet, when you look at the forwards England have at the moment and the fact he has a strong link to Ireland could sway it in our favour.

Englands top forward line have 2 world class players in every position lads like Grealish and Sterling on the left, Kane and Rashford through the middle, and Sancho and Bellingham on the right with Foden and Mount just behind.

If that is who Southgate picks for the Euros, the likes of Abraham, Calvert-Lewien, Bamford, Hudson-Odoi, Greenwood, Ings, and Maddison wont even get in the squad. He could potentially be a starter for us very soon if he did pick us whereas he could be waiting a long time to be a regular in the England squad. Heres hoping .


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Originally posted by JoxerDaly JoxerDaly wrote:

I wouldnt rule Delap out just yet, when you look at the forwards England have at the moment and the fact he has a strong link to Ireland could sway it in our favour.

Englands top forward line have 2 world class players in every position lads like Grealish and Sterling on the left, Kane and Rashford through the middle, and Sancho and Bellingham on the right with Foden and Mount just behind.

If that is who Southgate picks for the Euros, the likes of Calvert-Lewien, Bamford, Hudson-Odoi, Greenwood, Ings, and Maddison wont even get in the squad. He could potentially be a starter for us very soon if he did pick us whereas he could be waiting a long time to be a regular in the England squad. Heres hoping .

Southgate has been very clever and proactive in capping young dual qualified players.  He'll get him on the pitch against San Marino or Andorra. Don't see Liam playing for us barring a severe stalling in his development 
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Though that would no longer tie him. He'd need to cap him 4 times.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JoxerDaly Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Apr 2021 at 8:49am
Kenny did sound upbeat when talking about him recently and also Rory didnt rule it out in a recent interview when he said he dosent have a choice to make just yet, also his younger brother who is 16 and plays as a right back is on the books of Burton Albion, I can see him getting called up to one of the younger squads when there games resume.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Left foot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Apr 2021 at 9:29am
Sure he's played and scored for the England u18 vs Wales last week ffs.

His decision is pretty clear but we continue to try to convince ourselves 


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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Sure he's played and scored for the England u18 vs Wales last week ffs.

His decision is pretty clear but we continue to try to convince ourselves 



Ciaran Clarke played underage for England and was captain at one stage coupd of easily picked up England caps at that stage in his career.
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