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I still haven't forgiven the dopey coont for the Turkey handball. Disapprove


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I still haven't forgiven the dopey coont for the Turkey handball. Disapprove


See how people react when they conceed a 93 minute equaliser 
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I still haven't forgiven the dopey coont for the Turkey handball. Disapprove


See how people react when they conceed a 93 minute equaliser 


I dont want Carsley.  Never liked him.  I'd rather Kenny.
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Have seen a few clips on twitter of the style of football England u21s have been playing under Carsley and its very easy on the eye.

Not sure if it would work with our crop of players though.
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Lee Carsley seems to be quite triggering for some posters, without providing a single valid reason. 
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Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Lee Carsley seems to be quite triggering for some posters, without providing a single valid reason. 


1. He cost us euro2000 qualification
2. He has never managed at senior level and has less experience than Kenny!
3. Good coaches dont make good managers most of the time.  Its a different skillset.

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He actually has a decent record managing on caretaker basis at championship level on caretaker basis at Coventry, Birmingham and particularly Brentford. He was offered Brentford job but preferred working with and developing young players rather than managing at senior level 

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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Lee Carsley seems to be quite triggering for some posters, without providing a single valid reason. 


1. He cost us euro2000 qualification
2. He has never managed at senior level and has less experience than Kenny!
3. Good coaches dont make good managers most of the time.  Its a different skillset.


You're talking bollocks.

Mikel Arteta was hired as a 37 year old rookie manager after just 3.5 years working as a coach under Pep at City. Kieran McKenna was hired as a 35 year old rookie coach by Ipswich after 3.5 years as an assistant manager at United. Steve Cooper excelled at youth coaching with Liverpool and England, then moved into senior management 4 years ago. He's done well at Swansea and Forest.

That is how football is now. 

Kenny has been managing for 20+ years, but Carsley has worked across various clubs and experienced how modern football clubs operate. His time at Brentford, City and England are plus points, not negatives.
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Originally posted by Banana_RepublicFC Banana_RepublicFC wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Lee Carsley seems to be quite triggering for some posters, without providing a single valid reason. 


1. He cost us euro2000 qualification
2. He has never managed at senior level and has less experience than Kenny!
3. Good coaches dont make good managers most of the time.  Its a different skillset.


You're talking bollocks.

Mikel Arteta was hired as a 37 year old rookie manager after just 3.5 years working as a coach under Pep at City. Kieran McKenna was hired as a 35 year old rookie coach by Ipswich after 3.5 years as an assistant manager at United. Steve Cooper excelled at youth coaching with Liverpool and England, then moved into senior management 4 years ago. He's done well at Swansea and Forest.

That is how football is now. 

Kenny has been managing for 20+ years, but Carsley has worked across various clubs and experienced how modern football clubs operate. His time at Brentford, City and England are plus points, not negatives.


Are you blind?  There's exceptions to every rule. I dont want him anywhere near the job.  I'd sooner take Stan back.
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by Banana_RepublicFC Banana_RepublicFC wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Lee Carsley seems to be quite triggering for some posters, without providing a single valid reason. 


1. He cost us euro2000 qualification
2. He has never managed at senior level and has less experience than Kenny!
3. Good coaches dont make good managers most of the time.  Its a different skillset.

 
You're talking bollocks.

Mikel Arteta was hired as a 37 year old rookie manager after just 3.5 years working as a coach under Pep at City. Kieran McKenna was hired as a 35 year old rookie coach by Ipswich after 3.5 years as an assistant manager at United. Steve Cooper excelled at youth coaching with Liverpool and England, then moved into senior management 4 years ago. He's done well at Swansea and Forest.

That is how football is now. 

Kenny has been managing for 20+ years, but Carsley has worked across various clubs and experienced how modern football clubs operate. His time at Brentford, City and England are plus points, not negatives.


Are you blind?  There's exceptions to every rule. I dont want him anywhere near the job.  I'd sooner take Stan back.

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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Lee Carsley seems to be quite triggering for some posters, without providing a single valid reason. 


1. He cost us euro2000 qualification
2. He has never managed at senior level and has less experience than Kenny!
3. Good coaches dont make good managers most of the time.  Its a different skillset.

You said you "never liked him"...and you would prefer "Stan"...a proven failure as a manager. Stan also cost us a win against England at Wembley with his deflection into our goal. Whatever your stated reasons for your dislike of Carsley, they don't follow from the 3 reasons you gave above. 
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Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Lee Carsley seems to be quite triggering for some posters, without providing a single valid reason. 


1. He cost us euro2000 qualification
2. He has never managed at senior level and has less experience than Kenny!
3. Good coaches dont make good managers most of the time.  Its a different skillset.

You said you "never liked him"...and you would prefer "Stan"...a proven failure as a manager. Stan also cost us a win against England at Wembley with his deflection into our goal. Whatever your stated reasons for your dislike of Carsley, they don't follow from the 3 reasons you gave above. 


How did Stan cost us a win?  We went 1-0 down ffs and his goal was hardly an unforced errorConfused  unlike that clown Carsley who did a Harlem Globetrotters dribble with the ball in our own box.

He's a kiddies coach.  in no way experienced or earned a chance to manage us. 
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Lee Carsley seems to be quite triggering for some posters, without providing a single valid reason. 


1. He cost us euro2000 qualification
2. He has never managed at senior level and has less experience than Kenny!
3. Good coaches dont make good managers most of the time.  Its a different skillset.

You said you "never liked him"...and you would prefer "Stan"...a proven failure as a manager. Stan also cost us a win against England at Wembley with his deflection into our goal. Whatever your stated reasons for your dislike of Carsley, they don't follow from the 3 reasons you gave above. 


How did Stan cost us a win?  We went 1-0 down ffs and his goal was hardly an unforced errorConfused  unlike that clown Carsley who did a Harlem Globetrotters dribble with the ball in our own box.

He's a kiddies coach.  in no way experienced or earned a chance to manage us. 
We drew 1-1...without Stan's mindless leg flip...could of been a 1-0 to us. But unlike you I don't hold a grudge about a lad in an Irish shirt doing his best for his country about 20 years ago! Is the current Spain manager who won the Nations League, not their former U21 manager? You know, just a kiddies coach. Carsley is a deep thinker of the game, and a proven success as a coach. But you think he is a "clown"...and again with no reason to back it up
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Blaming Carsley for our elimination from the Euros in 2000 is proper brain dead stuff. Absolute idiots on here sometimes 
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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Blaming Carsley for our elimination from the Euros in 2000 is proper brain dead stuff. Absolute idiots on here sometimes 

Sure he was to blame!  Keep Kenny over Carsley every day of the week.
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Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Lee Carsley seems to be quite triggering for some posters, without providing a single valid reason. 


1. He cost us euro2000 qualification
2. He has never managed at senior level and has less experience than Kenny!
3. Good coaches dont make good managers most of the time.  Its a different skillset.

You said you "never liked him"...and you would prefer "Stan"...a proven failure as a manager. Stan also cost us a win against England at Wembley with his deflection into our goal. Whatever your stated reasons for your dislike of Carsley, they don't follow from the 3 reasons you gave above. 


How did Stan cost us a win?  We went 1-0 down ffs and his goal was hardly an unforced errorConfused  unlike that clown Carsley who did a Harlem Globetrotters dribble with the ball in our own box.

He's a kiddies coach.  in no way experienced or earned a chance to manage us. 
We drew 1-1...without Stan's mindless leg flip...could of been a 1-0 to us. But unlike you I don't hold a grudge about a lad in an Irish shirt doing his best for his country about 20 years ago! Is the current Spain manager who won the Nations League, not their former U21 manager? You know, just a kiddies coach. Carsley is a deep thinker of the game, and a proven success as a coach. But you think he is a "clown"...and again with no reason to back it up

Carsleybis a proven success my hole.  Being in charge of kiddies football is not a proving ground.
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Sure he was to blame!  

I've always blamed the team in Macedonia for failing to do what was needed to close out the game.
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