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Hes getting alot of criticism on here atm. Must be his hair?
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He looked ok in the first half and cut a frustrated figure in the second which was a really bad 45mins for him.
At least he didn't hide away from the ball, hourihane can go a game without making a mistake because he hides from the ball. I dont think he deserves any more or less criticism than the others |
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Not to start bashing aul Jeff (again), but if you type his name into Twitter you can see the number one question from Newcastle fans is.. what does he do?
It is the age old question when it comes to Jeff. Managers seem to always pick him. But not just pragmatic managers. Somebody supposedly more progressive and attack minded like Stephen Kenny has also chosen him in his midfield. What gives...? |
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lassassinblanc
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I sometimes wonder what the bashers actually want him to do.
Do people expect him to score and assist every game? Even in that article they go on about scoring and assisting for two paragraphs and then gloss over his 78% passing arcuracy. Hendrick is a hustler imo he does the dirty work in midfield pressing a player to pass to someone else in a less dangerous area. Even in terms of passing how many of those 78% passes lead to chances maybe not directly from his boot but from the pass to the player who did set things up.
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he plays premiership football every week that none of our other midfielders, except maybe mc carthy, do. watched last night, he did a lot of covering newcastles right flank from c. palace attacks which came mostly on that side. saw little of the ball but still played 2-3 really nice passes in the game
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Its a fair question, but to complete the question of what does he actually do, you need to also ask what is he being asked to do. I think hendrick is a good player but do wonder whats going on when he goes missing in games or when games pass him by. Weve all seen him play a lot and his work rate has been very good under Kenny and his performances have been better. I would go as far as saying he's been the best player under Kenny but maybe that's not saying much yet. I understand why Hendrick faces criticism as expectation with him is higher as he does have technical ability, he's not slow, has a good shot etc and as a result he doesn't get a pass that a limited player like Whelan would get by some on here. Fans ask these questions of midfielders all the time, I've heard fans ask what Henderson does at Liverpool, what Dier does at Tottenham. Its easier to see what Zaha does at Palace or Grealish at Villa and its not always easy to see from other types of player. Your link is nearly 3 years old but I do feel that Hendrick is an average player, if only we had a few more average players as I think players like hourihane, Brady, odowda, mcclean and a lot more are below average. |
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Managers like Bruce love a Hendrick, does a lot of donkey work and keeps things simple for the flair players to do the magic, he clocks up on average 13km a game and is always harrying or chasing, there is a reason he has played over 100 Premier league games.
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I was actually looking for this stat. The premier league is the most scrutinised league in the world - every player is benchmarked against others so there is no hiding place. For me Hendrick does a lot of dirty work and he is an intelligent player. His passing and awareness is good. I do think he should be doing better with assists and goals but the manager / club trainers are obviously happy with the job he does. |
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His feet are far too slow. His days as an attacking mid are long gone.
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Contribute something productive offensively or defensively to help his team to win matches I think would be the general answer, same as you could apply to any footballer really.
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I expect people will get a kick out of this: https://www.themag.co.uk/2020/12/the-jeff-hendrick-experience-ghost-newcastle-united/
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Newcastle fans are up there with the most deluded in the whole of England, a club that haven't won a trophy since the 1960s (a now defunct competition) carry this myth that they should be competing for the Premier League and being in the Champions League year in, year out. The same fan base who genuinely think a player being handed 'the famous number 9 shirt' carries a similar weight as that of what a player at Real Madrid or Brazil would carry. The same fan base who lauded Benitez but are trying to hound Bruce out a job? Despite Bruce having a near identical record as Benitez. For all of Hendricks faults, he is no worse than countless players who played for Newcastle for the best part of 15 years.
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
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Hendrick hiding from the ball
 What an astounding idea! Surely this can't be the same player that has been straight in the thick of the action every minute of his Ireland appearances the last few years?To be fair to the 'deluded' Newcastle fans, there are plenty of stats in the above column to back up the fact that he contributes next to nothing to any football team
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All of the bit in bold has nothing to do with the legitimate criticism of Hendrick in that article. He's making a fair point. Hendrick does tend to drift out of games. That said, I think Hendrick has played better under Kenny in this Nations League than he has in the last few years under MON and Mick. |
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lassassinblanc
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 While I'll agree there are a brigade of Newcastle fans who are OTT it's no more than other clubs fans. Majority of Newcastle fans actually have a realistic expectations. In terms of Hendrick even before he moved to Newcastle I always asked what people expect of him? |
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It's just Green Devil sprouting his usual anti Newcastle propaganda 🎣 Edited by lassassinblanc - 03 Dec 2020 at 11:05pm |
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Of course it has, I was making the point that these very fans tend to have unrealistic expectations of the players that the club signs more often than not, knowing full that they're either bang average or cast offs from other clubs. When Steve Bruce sends out his team with 5 at the back and to literally sit back and defend on the edge of the box to soak up endless amounts of pressure in hope of hitting a side on the counter is a great work to stop your midfielders from drifting out of games is it? What sort of impact are these midfielders supposed to have? |
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Ah yes that old chestnut, why because I'm stating facts? Newcastle are widely seen as having the most deluded fanbase in England, they get slated on a regular basis by various people in the media. A quick glance on the Villa, Everton, Liverpool forums etc will back that up also.
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
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