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Originally posted by Stickittotheman Stickittotheman wrote:

He is young and can improve but should he be in the squad at the minute? Debateable. Another Kenny favourite who is being chosen on that basis and the basis he is young.

With Cullen 1st choice in CM, it's the spot beside him that's up for grabs.

The current options are:
Molumby [Hasn't played much club football in the last 12 months, hasn't played yet for WBA]
Hendrick [Hasn't played much club football this year. Currently not playing at NU]
Arter [Hasn't played much club football this year. Just getting up & running at Charlton in L1. Injury prone.]
McCarthy [Hasn't played much football in the last 12 months. Just getting up & running at Celtic. Injury prone.]
Hourihane [Just getting up & running at SU. Not the most mobile.]

You have Browne & Knight there, too, who can play CM, but they're more AMs.

After that you're looking at bringing in new faces - Taylor, Doyle-Hayes, Coventry, Kilkenny - and there's issues with all of them either coming back from injury or illness or being brand new to senior football or barely playing.
I think Taylor or Doyle-Hayes would be most likely to get called up next from that group, but you obviously wouldn't be throwing them straight in to WCQs.

In short, yes Molumby should be in the squad.

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McCarthy and Arter should be phased out at this stage.

In relation to Molumby, he's suspended for the Azerbaijan game but I can see Kenny starting him at home to Qatar, that'll help his fitness etc..hopefully he starts to get a run in the WB side soon enough. He just has to be playing games at this stage, if he doesn't he needs to get out of WB and find a club that will play him.



     
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Originally posted by Greenie50 Greenie50 wrote:

Originally posted by Stickittotheman Stickittotheman wrote:

He is young and can improve but should he be in the squad at the minute? Debateable. Another Kenny favourite who is being chosen on that basis and the basis he is young.

With Cullen 1st choice in CM, it's the spot beside him that's up for grabs.

The current options are:
Molumby [Hasn't played much club football in the last 12 months, hasn't played yet for WBA]
Hendrick [Hasn't played much club football this year. Currently not playing at NU]
Arter [Hasn't played much club football this year. Just getting up & running at Charlton in L1. Injury prone.]
McCarthy [Hasn't played much football in the last 12 months. Just getting up & running at Celtic. Injury prone.]
Hourihane [Just getting up & running at SU. Not the most mobile.]

You have Browne & Knight there, too, who can play CM, but they're more AMs.

After that you're looking at bringing in new faces - Taylor, Doyle-Hayes, Coventry, Kilkenny - and there's issues with all of them either coming back from injury or illness or being brand new to senior football or barely playing.
I think Taylor or Doyle-Hayes would be most likely to get called up next from that group, but you obviously wouldn't be throwing them straight in to WCQs.

In short, yes Molumby should be in the squad.


Looking at those options in midfield doesn't fill me with confidence, adding to that Browne's form has been tragic.

Artur, mccarthy (for injury reasons) and hourihane need to be replaced as soon as possible hendrick can probably still offer something but that's not saying much.

Bringing in kilkenny or Taylor to the squad early might see benefits long term.

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Jamie mcgrath and conor ronan keep developing as well as zack elbouzedi they could become further options

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Originally posted by CillDara CillDara wrote:

It could still go either way for Molumby, he could be a future Ireland captain or he may never get much further than the lower half of the Championship. His aggression is a strength in my opinion, but agree that he can be a little bit too reckless. I get the sense that sometimes he is too eager to impress when playing for Ireland and can end up running around a bit like a headless chicken, but most of his performances for the u21s were superb.

It's concerning that he hasn't featured yet for WBA but I'm sure he will get his chance, whether he impresses enough in those games to stake his claim for a regular spot will be another story.
Calling Molumby a possible future captain is ludicrous. His CV to date is a loan spell at Millwall and a propensity for silly tackles. Best of luck to him but currently I cannot see any reason for him being in the squad. 


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Originally posted by Greenie50 Greenie50 wrote:

Originally posted by Stickittotheman Stickittotheman wrote:

He is young and can improve but should he be in the squad at the minute? Debateable. Another Kenny favourite who is being chosen on that basis and the basis he is young.

With Cullen 1st choice in CM, it's the spot beside him that's up for grabs.

The current options are:
Molumby [Hasn't played much club football in the last 12 months, hasn't played yet for WBA]
Hendrick [Hasn't played much club football this year. Currently not playing at NU]
Arter [Hasn't played much club football this year. Just getting up & running at Charlton in L1. Injury prone.]
McCarthy [Hasn't played much football in the last 12 months. Just getting up & running at Celtic. Injury prone.]
Hourihane [Just getting up & running at SU. Not the most mobile.]

You have Browne & Knight there, too, who can play CM, but they're more AMs.

After that you're looking at bringing in new faces - Taylor, Doyle-Hayes, Coventry, Kilkenny - and there's issues with all of them either coming back from injury or illness or being brand new to senior football or barely playing.
I think Taylor or Doyle-Hayes would be most likely to get called up next from that group, but you obviously wouldn't be throwing them straight in to WCQs.

In short, yes Molumby should be in the squad.


For me the midfielders should be Cullen, Knight, Browne, Hendrick, Hourihane, McGrath and Arter. Molumby had a decent loan spell a few years back and has done zero since. He hasn't impressed me one bit in an Irish shirt. Debateable if he should be in the squad for me. Possibly if you want 8 central midfielders he could be the last option. Sometimes I get the impression Kenny is just playing guys because they are young. And people seem to lap it up despite the absolute sh*tshow we are witnessing.
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well what older better players would you be playing instead then??
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

well what older better players would you be playing instead then??
Maybe Kenny could show a bit of ingenuity - Doherty or Omobamidele. Calling up a perennial Championship benchwarmer with no games this year, no pre-season and a so-so record at senior international level would amount, at best, to little more then misplaced loyalty. 
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I think Cullen and Hendrick are shoo-ins to start vs Azerbaijan. One would assume he'll stick with 5 at the back, so its a question of whether he plays 5-2-3 with Connolly and Robinson to the left and right of either Idah, Parrott or Collins or a 5-3-2 in which case there is room for another midfielder, most probably either Knight or Mc Grath.

Looking forward to Qatar, I think he should rest Cullen who has played a lot of football this season. We know what he can do and he will start the November games if fit. We should have a look at somebody else in his position. I dont see the point in selecting Arter at this point, he's 32 in December, injury prone and playing L1 football. If Mc Carthy is fit, available and willing then he is the obvious choice, but that's a big if. If he's not available then Molumby or Jack Taylor are the ones in contention imo. I would leave Coventry with the U-21s for now - he is their captain and Taylor is starting ahead of him at Peterborough in any case. 

Hendrick might benefit from playing both games to make up for his lack of minutes at club level, given he will likely be needed in November also, so whichever one of Mc Grath/Knight doesnt start vs Azerbaijan should start vs Qatar. Browne (suspended for the Azeri game) and Hourihane are the other midfield options. Dunno whats going on with Browne, didnt even make the bench at the weekand and he has only managed 2 sub apps (27 mins) since the last window. Hourihane at least has ahd 1 start and 3 sub apps for a grand total of 106 minutes over the same period and a couple of assists, both from corners.

For me Cullen, Hendrick, Knight and Mc Grath are certs. After that it's anyone's guess. Mc Carthy may well be unavailable again, I dont see the point of Arter at this stage of the campaign. I'd have Jack Taylor back in the fold. That leaves Browne, Hourihane, Molumby - not the most exciting array of options to be sure. I'd still hold fire on the likes of Doyle Hayes and the U-21s, but Ronan mught be worth a shout given he is a CAM.
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Robinson struggling for fitness so can't see it being two midfielders with two wide players supporting Idah. If Knight is fit he'll probably assume that more advanced role and push up at times to make it a front three especially when pressing. Just hope we don't get Connolly, Idah, and Parrott starting up front again like the last game.

When's the squad being named, Northern Ireland named there's this morning and think Wales are also naming theirs today.
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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

well what older better players would you be playing instead then??
Maybe Kenny could show a bit of ingenuity - Doherty or Omobamidele. Calling up a perennial Championship benchwarmer with no games this year, no pre-season and a so-so record at senior international level would amount, at best, to little more then misplaced loyalty. 

As ideas go, that one is out there! Who do we play at RWB if we move Doherty into midfield, leaving aside the fact he has never played there at any level? Omobamidele is 19 learning his trade as a CB and you want to move him in to midfield. Ingenuity is one thing, but that just seems crazy to me. Knock Kenny all you want, he has made plenty of questionable decisions, but thankfully I cant see him going down this particular route.
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Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Robinson struggling for fitness so can't see it being two midfielders with two wide players supporting Idah. If Knight is fit he'll probably assume that more advanced role and push up at times to make it a front three especially when pressing. Just hope we don't get Connolly, Idah, and Parrott starting up front again like the last game.

When's the squad being named, Northern Ireland named there's this morning and think Wales are also naming theirs today.

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Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Robinson struggling for fitness so can't see it being two midfielders with two wide players supporting Idah. If Knight is fit he'll probably assume that more advanced role and push up at times to make it a front three especially when pressing. Just hope we don't get Connolly, Idah, and Parrott starting up front again like the last game.

When's the squad being named, Northern Ireland named there's this morning and think Wales are also naming theirs today.

While I appreciate Robinson may not be fully fit, imo it is a must win game for Kenny and I think he will see it that way also, so he may lean towards a more attacking line up. There aren't a lot of goals in the team and Knight wont help with that. Worth noting also that Knight has only started one game since his return and didn't finish it. He has 142 mins over 4 games since the last window vs Robinson's 133 mins also over 4 games. Robinson at least had a full pre-season whereas Knight didn't. In any case, Mc Grath could get the nod over both. 

Parrott absolutely didn't work to the right of the front 3 last time. I think it's either him or Idah (or Collins), not both.
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

well what older better players would you be playing instead then??

I just named 7 midfielders who I think should be ahead of him in the pecking order.
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

well what older better players would you be playing instead then??
Maybe Kenny could show a bit of ingenuity - Doherty or Omobamidele. Calling up a perennial Championship benchwarmer with no games this year, no pre-season and a so-so record at senior international level would amount, at best, to little more then misplaced loyalty. 

As ideas go, that one is out there! Who do we play at RWB if we move Doherty into midfield, leaving aside the fact he has never played there at any level? Omobamidele is 19 learning his trade as a CB and you want to move him in to midfield. Ingenuity is one thing, but that just seems crazy to me. Knock Kenny all you want, he has made plenty of questionable decisions, but thankfully I cant see him going down this particular route.
Nothing crazy about it. There's a regular EPL centre back not even in the squad and Omobamidele is well capable of playing defensive midfield. Lawrenson and McGrath did so - and if Omobamidele is considered mature enough to face Ronaldo he's well capable of such responsibility. Doherty has proven his ability as an all-round utility player - left or right side. That versatility should be used. But you're right, Kenny hasn't gone down this crazy path - and his very crazy record reflects it. 
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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

well what older better players would you be playing instead then??
Maybe Kenny could show a bit of ingenuity - Doherty or Omobamidele. Calling up a perennial Championship benchwarmer with no games this year, no pre-season and a so-so record at senior international level would amount, at best, to little more then misplaced loyalty. 

As ideas go, that one is out there! Who do we play at RWB if we move Doherty into midfield, leaving aside the fact he has never played there at any level? Omobamidele is 19 learning his trade as a CB and you want to move him in to midfield. Ingenuity is one thing, but that just seems crazy to me. Knock Kenny all you want, he has made plenty of questionable decisions, but thankfully I cant see him going down this particular route.
Nothing crazy about it. There's a regular EPL centre back not even in the squad and Omobamidele is well capable of playing defensive midfield. Lawrenson and McGrath did so - and if Omobamidele is considered mature enough to face Ronaldo he's well capable of such responsibility. Doherty has proven his ability as an all-round utility player - left or right side. That versatility should be used. But you're right, Kenny hasn't gone down this crazy path - and his very crazy record reflects it. 
Doherty was one our best player in the last round over the three games - why would you consider moving him from his most effective position? Obobamidele may be a good prospect but McGrath or Lawrenson he is not.  Also this was tried with Cyrus Christie not so long ago & on that evidence it should be a no.
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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Nothing crazy about it. There's a regular EPL centre back not even in the squad and Omobamidele is well capable of playing defensive midfield. Lawrenson and McGrath did so - and if Omobamidele is considered mature enough to face Ronaldo he's well capable of such responsibility. Doherty has proven his ability as an all-round utility player - left or right side. That versatility should be used. But you're right, Kenny hasn't gone down this crazy path - and his very crazy record reflects it. 

^^^ this manager just gets worse and worse - he won't even make crazy decisions and play players out of position like I suggest.. disgraceful.. 

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Originally posted by shakeyshamrock shakeyshamrock wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Nothing crazy about it. There's a regular EPL centre back not even in the squad and Omobamidele is well capable of playing defensive midfield. Lawrenson and McGrath did so - and if Omobamidele is considered mature enough to face Ronaldo he's well capable of such responsibility. Doherty has proven his ability as an all-round utility player - left or right side. That versatility should be used. But you're right, Kenny hasn't gone down this crazy path - and his very crazy record reflects it. 

^^^ this manager just gets worse and worse - he won't even make crazy decisions and play players out of position like I suggest.. disgraceful.. 

this forum just keeps on giving! 
Kenny did something right in Lisbon - then, crazily, undid what worked and delivered a shocker against Azerbaijan. Making "crazy decisions" like I, or you for that matter, suggest are not crazy in the current environment - it would be more challenging to do worse than Kenny.
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