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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Where was all this poppy lark in football in the 90s?  Nowhere.

Just a recruitment drive for cannon fodder for the next pointless war
 


I wonder what happens to this money?

The RBL is the wealthiest of Britain's ten biggest military charities. Between them, these ten have combined assets of £1.4 billion, plus reserves of £277 million, prompting increasingly angry accusations of 'cash hoarding.

This never seems to get questioned in the Brits media.
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

He just has to live with the abuse Sounness saying due to his stance on it. 

What a load of crap ! 

Any other player getting racial abuse and the FA go to town on the guilty but James has to "Live " with it !

The chants that he posted on his Instagram 2 weeks ago were disgusting and are clear as day for all to hear but nothing will ever be done about it .
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

He just has to live with the abuse Sounness saying due to his stance on it. 

Tbf, no Englishman or Scots Protestant is going to come out on national radio over there and say he's right not to wear the poppy (no matter if they hold such an opinion privately). Sounds like an entirely pointless conversation really, unless they have a contrary viewpoint on there?

It was on an entirely pointless radio station tbf.
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Where was all this poppy lark in football in the 90s?  Nowhere.

Just a recruitment drive for cannon fodder for the next pointless war

Murdoch media empire and Sky in particular started pushing it in 2003 to garner support for the illegal war in Iraq. Think Leicester were the first to put them on the shirt. Snowballed from there. 
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Originally posted by Salzburglilly Salzburglilly wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

He just has to live with the abuse Sounness saying due to his stance on it. 

What a load of crap ! 

Any other player getting racial abuse and the FA go to town on the guilty but James has to "Live " with it !

The chants that he posted on his Instagram 2 weeks ago were disgusting and are clear as day for all to hear but nothing will ever be done about it .


 

I think Stan Collymore is pretty much the only person who's been brave enough to call out the racist abuse and lack of support he's receiving.
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James McClean has been a great man for Ireland. he's always given it everything.
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Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Where was all this poppy lark in football in the 90s?  Nowhere.

Just a recruitment drive for cannon fodder for the next pointless war

Murdoch media empire and Sky in particular started pushing it in 2003 to garner support for the illegal war in Iraq. Think Leicester were the first to put them on the shirt. Snowballed from there. 
one of the tabloids started a campaign around 2008 for all premier league teams to put poppies on their jerseys for remembrance weekend. There were a few that refused, pretty sure one of them was Middlesbrough, but they were castigated for it in the press, so they started doing it the next season
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Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Where was all this poppy lark in football in the 90s?  Nowhere.

Just a recruitment drive for cannon fodder for the next pointless war

Murdoch media empire and Sky in particular started pushing it in 2003 to garner support for the illegal war in Iraq. Think Leicester were the first to put them on the shirt. Snowballed from there. 
one of the tabloids started a campaign around 2008 for all premier league teams to put poppies on their jerseys for remembrance weekend. There were a few that refused, pretty sure one of them was Middlesbrough, but they were castigated for it in the press, so they started doing it the next season

A number of teams had already followed Leicester's lead after 2003 by then though. Am pretty sure it was 2003 when it first appeared.
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Good summary on McClean in MON's autobiography.  

Remembered for his goals against Austria and Wales, what gets noticed less is a few last-ditch tackles in our own box which saved very likely goals - and from an attacking player getting all the way back there - says it all about his character.

“James McClean was at Sunderland when I arrived and I gave him his debut and, honestly, he was a breath of fresh air,” says the 1982 World Cup star.

“He became an instant hero with the crowd and did brilliantly and then the crowd turned against him because of the poppy incident where he didn’t want to wear a poppy or refused to do that and then not only visiting fans would give him stick for that but also the Sunderland fans.

“I have to say, though, that James McClean did marvellously for me both at club level and international level. In fact, in the 2018 World Cup campaign after the Euros in 2016, he took on the mantle as our main man trying to get us to Russia.

“He did brilliantly for me and I have the utmost regard for James McClean.”
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CNN article on James and the poppy issue
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

CNN article on James and the poppy issue


"A solid if unspectacular career" - Horsebox already looking for the author to have a word with him!!!
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

CNN article on James and the poppy issue


"A solid if unspectacular career" - Horsebox already looking for the author to have a word with him!!!



Smile Fair enough too, 95 caps and 11 international goals say different!
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Back on the score sheet today.

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