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Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

Stoke are playing with wing backs again and Morgan Fox , a recent signing, has done well on the left. Official line re McClean is that he missed a couple of pre-season games on international duty and only played 15 mins when getting his 73rd cap against Finland. So O'Neill is saying he expects James to play his way back in to the Stoke team.
How does he play his way in to the team though without....errr....playing? Just like the whole 'match fitness' conundrum 
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Originally posted by ConorMac77 ConorMac77 wrote:

Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Seems like Rangers are in for him ........................... errrrr sorry Queens Park Rangers 
Wonder how ybiggers' hearts stopped for a moment when they read this? NukeLOL


Alan Judge, Daryl Murphy and Conor Hourihane have been linked with Rangers over the years and all three have said they wouldn't even contemplate signing for them because of how it would be received at home. I'm pretty sure all three of them attracted criticism for saying that, Judge certainly did.

If lads from Dublin, Waterford and Cork won't countenance the idea of playing for them, only a buffoon would think there's even a 1% chance of McClean doing so.

Jon Daly and Alan Smith, to my mind, are the only Irish-born players to play for Rangers in living memory. Shane Ferguson, who was once linked to us as a catholic Northern Irish player, also briefly played for them.

Interestingly, Ferguson, like McClean, is from Derry.
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Alan Judge, Daryl Murphy and Conor Hourihane have been linked with Rangers over the years and all three have said they wouldn't even contemplate signing for them because of how it would be received at home. I'm pretty sure all three of them attracted criticism for saying that, Judge certainly did.

If lads from Dublin, Waterford and Cork won't countenance the idea of playing for them, only a buffoon would think there's even a 1% chance of McClean doing so.

Jon Daly and Alan Smith, to my mind, are the only Irish-born players to play for Rangers in living memory. Shane Ferguson, who was once linked to us as a catholic Northern Irish player, also briefly played for them.

Interestingly, Ferguson, like McClean, is from Derry.

I don't think Alan Smith ever actually made a competitive first team appearance. Just Daly.

This was an interesting read ....

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Originally posted by ErsatzThistle ErsatzThistle wrote:

Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:


Alan Judge, Daryl Murphy and Conor Hourihane have been linked with Rangers over the years and all three have said they wouldn't even contemplate signing for them because of how it would be received at home. I'm pretty sure all three of them attracted criticism for saying that, Judge certainly did.

If lads from Dublin, Waterford and Cork won't countenance the idea of playing for them, only a buffoon would think there's even a 1% chance of McClean doing so.

Jon Daly and Alan Smith, to my mind, are the only Irish-born players to play for Rangers in living memory. Shane Ferguson, who was once linked to us as a catholic Northern Irish player, also briefly played for them.

Interestingly, Ferguson, like McClean, is from Derry.

I don't think Alan Smith ever actually made a competitive first team appearance. Just Daly.

This was an interesting read ....



I forgot about Rob Kiernan. That's another one.
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In 2011, a Catholic kid from Limavady called Aaron McGregor with a GAA background signed for Rangers and provoked a sectarian backlash from their knuckledraggers. I don't know what became of him. Shane Ferguson also had a GAA background but was more accepted because he played for NI. I don't know if he contemplated switching or if his initial refusal to play for them was down to that balloon Nigel Worthington, who was the NI manager at the time.
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Alan Maybury was on trial with the huns when he was younger - he is Protestant though so that might explain that. I remember him saying he used get dogs abuse when he'd wear the gear they let him keep back home. 
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I'd be interested to know what happened to Aaron McGregor. Was he signed because of his name or who he played for, so the Rangers scouts assumed he was a Prod? Last I heard he signed a two year deal in 2011 and left after one year, having been subjected to death threats and rabid sectarian abuse. Lovely welcome for a teenage boy living away from home for the first time. Maybe an enterprising journalist somewhere could look into this ? The lad is still young enough to be playing football somewhere if he has not been permanently scarred by his experience of the blue end of Glasgow.
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Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

I'd be interested to know what happened to Aaron McGregor. Was he signed because of his name or who he played for, so the Rangers scouts assumed he was a Prod? Last I heard he signed a two year deal in 2011 and left after one year, having been subjected to death threats and rabid sectarian abuse. Lovely welcome for a teenage boy living away from home for the first time. Maybe an enterprising journalist somewhere could look into this ? The lad is still young enough to be playing football somewhere if he has not been permanently scarred by his experience of the blue end of Glasgow.
Complaining about rabid sectarian abuse seems a bit hollow when unnecessarily using slurs about Protestants. 
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Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

Shane Ferguson also had a GAA background but was more accepted because he played for NI. I don't know if he contemplated switching or if his initial refusal to play for them was down to that balloon Nigel Worthington, who was the NI manager at the time.
Having been capped by NI over 30 times at under-age level, Shane declined a call up to the senior squad by Nigel Worthington. This led to speculation that he was about to switch, causing the FAI to approach him. He was on Newcastle's books at the time.

However it was actually a personal thing between him and Worthington and he promptly accepted the first call up by Michael O'Neill. He clearly never had any intention of switching, as was subsequently confirmed by his U-21 manager:


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Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

In 2011, a Catholic kid from Limavady called Aaron McGregor with a GAA background signed for Rangers and provoked a sectarian backlash from their knuckledraggers. I don't know what became of him. Shane Ferguson also had a GAA background but was more accepted because he played for NI. I don't know if he contemplated switching or if his initial refusal to play for them was down to that balloon Nigel Worthington, who was the NI manager at the time.

I'm pretty sure one of Ferguson's parents is Scottish, perhaps they're from a background that would have made him more comfortable playing for them, and made the support more amenable to him.
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Is mcclean injured? Strange he's not in the stoke squad tonight 
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Is mcclean injured? Strange he's not in the stoke squad tonight 

Not sure I'd read too much into that. It's the League Cup; teams get rotated.
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Surely after tonight enough is enough and McClean will now finally be put out to pasture. He can't pass the ball to a team mate with any consistency, he gives away a ridiculous amount of possession game after game and spends the rest of the time tearing around the field like a deranged lunatic, flying into tackles and giving away free kicks trying to win back ball that he has lost. Should have been taken off sooner tonight.

I don't think there's a player in the squad who is less suited to the kind of football we're trying to play than he is. Hopefully we won't have to watch much more of him in an Ireland jersey. I don't care how committed he is, he's nowhere near good enough.
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I’m not a big fan but thought he turned them over in the first half twice in their own half?

Given we didn’t barely shoot at their goal in the first half I thought he made a decent contribution.

Overall he’s deeply average who is an impact sub.
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He had a very good game tonight. The yellow card was frustrating as it was unnecessary, not to mention that the referee had played an advantage that we didn't really want, but he had a good game. As did the referee, who came in for some bizarre criticism. 
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Thought tonight was his night, he gets a lot of abuse because of his politics, some deserved some not, hope he gets his 100 caps, but think his days are numbered 
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I will only ever abuse him based on his football!

Even at the limited standard we are playing at these days, he's not good enough.

He'll do well to make 80 caps, never mind 100.


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He did fine. Anyone laying the blame for our latest failure at his door is misguided at best. And entirely missing the wider picture.
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