James McClean

Probably not too popular a thing to be writing here but of course there is a hatred of Irish by some people in the UK.    Its not that long ago that "irish" people were planting bombs in pubs and other buildings that caused damage and loss of life.  

horsebox wrote: I don't think this has anything to do with Unionism, I'm assuming it was a Stoke fan who sent it? at least that is what I thought. This is not the view of one single individual, we see similar behavior week in week out. Just a blatant ignorant hatred of the Irish, up and down the country on a weekly basis. You just need to look at the contempt and how little they think of us relating to Brexit, Soldier F etc...Karen Bradley and Gavin Williamson would be an example.

pre Madonna wrote: horsebox wrote: I don't think this has anything to do with Unionism, I'm assuming it was a Stoke fan who sent it? at least that is what I thought. This is not the view of one single individual, we see similar behavior week in week out. Just a blatant ignorant hatred of the Irish, up and down the country on a weekly basis. You just need to look at the contempt and how little they think of us relating to Brexit, Soldier F etc...Karen Bradley and Gavin Williamson would be an example. This sort of bollocksology is part of the problem, not the solution. As someone who lives in England, I can assure you that what you said isn't the case, no more than is the reverse that there is a 'blatant ignorant hatred of the English up and down Ireland'. Saying things like this and having this mindset only muddies the waters and makes things more difficult. Unquestionably, Brexit and the political discourse since Brexit has emboldened far-right opinion and has lead to the above. Politicians and society in general must always take responsibility for their actions and how it influences people who are often vulnerable, but while it might not be the view of a single individual, it is very much the action of either a single individual or a very small group.  If it was a Stoke fan that sent it, and it could be anybody from anywhere, then the responses on their forum and even on Twitter, where the lunatic fringe are usually out in force, would suggest it didn't have much support from them. In fact, if you go back to the responses in England to when James first refused to wear the poppy and the generally more reasoned debate that happened last year, it is far to say that there has been much more understanding of his stance. As for using the Tory party to highlight the contempt of British people towards Irish people, I can assure you that have similar contempt for lots of people, most of them English; and yet people still vote for them, in the way Irish people still vote for parties that treated Irish people in similar  contempt. Democracy, eh?  I agree that the ignorance and lack of understanding from British politicians and media (nearly always leaning right) is frustrating, it certainly helps fuel the abuse like James received above(although again, to be clear, we have no guarantee where they were from) but as they have been proving for centuries, that their ignorance is the one thing about them that is internationalist, most of the time they are even ignorant of England. To just start shouting off about 'their' ignorant hatred of Ireland is only going to fan the flames of 'our' ignorant hatred of England and will help nobody, least of all McClean.

It would be funny if it weren't so worrying. with the current political climate in the UK and idiots like Yaxley-Lennon prominent on social media, it wouldn't surprise me if some knuckle dragger decided to act on their hatred of McClean at a match or in public, similar to what happened to Lennon at Hearts away. We hear a lot about the anti-racism initiatives in English football but when it is directed against Irish people the silence is deafening, punctuated by navel-gazing on the part of the higher ups.

zizu Kilbane wrote: only cretins don’t like Guinness

To be fair to the bigot , I don't like the sh*te they pass off as Guinness in Britain. Cans are your only man.

irishmufc wrote: The Huntacha wrote: Wouldn't be surprised if it was from a Stoke fan.  Had to laugh at one of the comments on his page; "Was there any money in the card?"  I love how the lunatic wrote on the back of the card too.

tonyjaa wrote: Still silence from the usual authorities? Any support for him from the fai?

No sightings of Delaney singing rebel songs yet anyway.

A black Irish Republican player ?

Ireland players should stop wearing the poppy.

Matic stopped wearing one and not a word was said.