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bogball88
Liam Brady Joined: 16 May 2016 Location: Throne Status: Offline Points: 2673 |
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James didn't miss the chance to get back home and vote for Sinn Fein today
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max
Liam Brady My new name is Wax Joined: 08 Jan 2012 Status: Offline Points: 1883 |
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Wonder will there be any repercussions for James saying that Austria had a 12th man in his interview directly after the game.
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Devrozex
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There's nothing wrong with praising the opposition's vocal support.
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Roberto Baggio
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https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2017/0621/884331-oneill-mcclean/Thought at the time that it was a stupid thing for McClean to be saying in an after match interview
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Darraghn92
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The possibility of McClean serving a longer ban than Neil Taylor is ridiculous
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lassassinblanc
Paul McGrath Cheese, it’s not just for eating Joined: 27 Sep 2010 Location: Clairefontaine Status: Offline Points: 16460 |
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They'll both get a slap on the wrist and a fine I'd say, don't think either of them have ever been in trouble with FIFA before.
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Het-field
Roy Keane By Appointment to His Majesty The King Joined: 08 Mar 2016 Status: Offline Points: 10531 |
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It was. It is another shame of football that it is the one sport where it has become acceptable to throw whatever mud you like at the referee, ignoring human error etc. Focussing on the referee is bitter. |
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KILCRUISE
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good to see a reaction from them, comments not really bad about referee, let it fire the lads up for the next encounter,
no doubt a slap on the wrist for them and on they go, "12th man" |
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may the road rise to meet you but make sure it does not slap you in the face
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9532 |
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I think it's a shame that football is a sport where you are allowed to gag participants from voicing their opinion, if a player wants to criticise an official then why not, they aren't sacred animals and they should be able to deal with it. Edited by The O'Shea - 21 Jun 2017 at 12:13pm |
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We're decent enough..
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Het-field
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"Gagging Participants". What hyperbolic nonsense.
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Devrozex
Jack Charlton Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 7675 |
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I think The O'Shea has a point in fairness. Due to punishments like this nowadays we get very little out of players and managers in terms of their true view of a referring performance. 'No comment' is the best approach to take which is quite ridiculous when you think about it. In any event, both O'Neill and McClean know full well what type of environment we currently operate in and therefore should have conducted themselves a little more appropriately post-game. You would have a certain amount of sympathy however as both individuals are riled up from an intense and high pressure contest and then have a microphone shoved in their faces right after a game in which the referee has made two highly suspect decisions late on.
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gspain
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It wasn't even human error. He was correct in disallowing the Duffy goal unfortunately. We may have had a case for one of the penalty shouts (possible foul on Walters) but equally our goal may have been disallowed for pushing too. All in all I thought the referee had a decent enough game and certainly far better than the referee v Wales. Either way you can't criticize referees these days I hope they just get a slap on the wrist.
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pre Madonna
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Yeah, it was brainless from Duffy to go charging in at all, never mind arm first. It was a straight battle between Walters and the defender on the goal-line, I would have fancied the worst outcome to be the defender keeping the ball alive in the box and another 50-50.
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Het-field
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In other cases we get more than enough of players insinuating and implying that referees are cheats and not to be trusted, which has trickled down to the lowest levels of the game where every decision is allegedly laced with bias and agenda. There is a major difference between noting and accepting human error, and claiming bias and cheating, the latter of which has become all to commonplace in the game. And often, the referee has no right of reply, which allows for unfettered allegations about official motives. Frankly, I think it's pathetic how far football has gone in this regard, and I would much rather genuine attempts at understanding the human error of umpires, rather than encouraging some BS form of open discourse for partisan managers and players. This rant is not about McClean and O'Neill but about the culture that no other sport has engendered. |
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Bob Hoskins
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I'd say the Georgian team would really feel sorry for our team and these incidents from a terrible ref.
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Romario 2016: And the ticket mafia gets caught! Well, four years ago I had already told the government.
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kearney304
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You can't blame a ref when you don't start the game until the 60th min mark.
My opinion - we rode our luck a bit with the goal. Could have been a push. Our goal should have stood but if I was Austrian I would be gutted if it was given against us. Blatant pen on Big Jon - no question in my mind. The easiest decision of the 3. All in all this didn't dictate the result, our performance did as much as I want to lambast the ref. Mc Clean speaking so soon after whistle - sometimes I question logic. He's our most honest player at the best of times so keep him away from media. He was frustrated and knows that we weren't good enough. Same way United used to hide Scholes - he was liable to say something - not that he was shy.
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SuperDave84
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It would be very harsh indeed if O'Neill gets punished. His words were strong but he didn't accuse the referee of bias, at all. He said he was inconsistent, but there wasn't even an implication of bias in what he said. You are entitled to call a refereeing decision poor, without calling him a cheat or biased. That's what O'Neill did. He shouldn't get punished. They could try and read an implication on bias into the comments ""I personally think it typified the referee’s performance. He let a lot
of things go and if that’s the case, then you think, ‘let this go’. If
he’s called a foul on Shane Duffy, I can’t see it," as if O'Neill was saying it wasn't let go because he was biased, but that's definitely straining things.
McClean on the other hand did call him a cheat. At this stage, damage limitation is the best option. Accept responsibility, but simply reiterate that he only said what he said after playing 90 minutes, having seen a late goal disallowed (and one that was only marginal), and having had a microphone thrust in his face the second he came off the pitch, when feelings were still raw. That's the way to play that one. |
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El_nino
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Slap on the wrists is all they will get. Will be shocked if any suspensions are handed out.
Was listening to OTB earlier this evening and they were talking about some Slovakian player who completely went OTT in a post match interview after a team mate being sent off and was punished by the way of a €5k fine |
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