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Hotlips_Hoolahan ![]() Liam Brady ![]() Joined: 04 Aug 2020 Status: Offline Points: 1162 |
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In fairness to Jack, he's hinted that he'd like to go back to the Netherlands and there's also alleged interest from Cyprus and Belgium. Long gone are the days where there would be Irish players in Spain, France and Italy. And there have been lads like Aaron Connolly and Sinclair Armstrong who've had links to Germany, where they would presumably go into development teams, but we've yet to see anyone from here follow in the footsteps of the likes of Oliver Burke, Jadon Sancho or Jude Bellingham who've all played in the Bundesliga in recent years.
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IrishCanadian ![]() Alan Kernaghan ![]() Joined: 29 Jun 2019 Status: Offline Points: 149 |
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Oliver Burke’s time in Germany led to him being labelled by the coaching staff as the most tactically stupid player they’d ever come across. One of our lads must be able to match that.
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Frabhoy ![]() Ronnie Whelan ![]() Joined: 13 Oct 2019 Location: Ballycastle Status: Offline Points: 77 |
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When he was at Celtic, he was a complete headless chicken upfront but has all the physical attributes, speed and a decent touch. Actually feel sorry as he hasn't been able to settle anywhere. Sheffield United could do with him coming good. Jack Byrne would definitely not have that problem in Germany. I think the Bundesliga would be a good league for Jack. Interesting to see the offers he gets
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Mr Brick ![]() Davey Langan ![]() ![]() I spelled my username wrong Joined: 29 Nov 2017 Location: Kilcrohane/WA Status: Offline Points: 786 |
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You're probably right, but it speaks volumes that a player often touted as a cure to our creativity woes should target Barnsley, Huddersfield, Coventry and Rotherham as a destination.
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Hotlips_Hoolahan ![]() Liam Brady ![]() Joined: 04 Aug 2020 Status: Offline Points: 1162 |
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There are teams at a similar level to us who select players playing at worse teams in worse leagues. Glen Kamara was quite handy against us and he broke through for Finland while playing at Dundee. The majority of their players were playing for teams worse than Barnsley or Rotherham. I'd imagine there are domestic based players who couldn't really be any worse than Cyrus Christie's been for example. You have to cut your cloth according to your situation. Dundalk scored 8 goals in the Europa League proper, and Byrne's generally excelled in Rovers European games, so there's evidence that players like Byrne can flourish in certain Intl games if they have a more solid base than what Rovers and Dundalk operate with. There was one errant pass in particular in one of the Nations League games that caused consternation but Hourihane, Arter and Molumby have played hospital passes and had brainfarts at points as well so I won't condemn Byrne for that when he's playing the percentages well. Theoretically, we could utilise him depending on the situation i.e. particular opposition, as was the case during swathes of Hoolahan's Intl career. |
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doherty ![]() Ray Houghton ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 2015 Status: Offline Points: 3495 |
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I think he shud stay away from Engand for now. Go somewhere that he is almost guaranteed to play most weeks. Holland seems to fit the bill perfectly as he would at least be known there so i am sure they may be some interest there.
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Hotlips_Hoolahan ![]() Liam Brady ![]() Joined: 04 Aug 2020 Status: Offline Points: 1162 |
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That's the best case scenario for me. He seemed to rise to the occasion in the big matches there. And 4 goals was a decent return from 27 matches at that stage of his career. Quite a split. Some awful teams who he could boss, but equally, half-a-dozen pretty strong teams he could test himself against on a regular basis. Also could operate as a pathway to a league like the Bundesliga, or give him a better chance of getting the right English move than his form at Shamrock Rovers would warrant. On a somewhat unrelated note, I still remember when Cork City blocked Liam Kearney from moving to Heerenveen, who have some of the most iconic jerseys in European football.
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Mr Brick ![]() Davey Langan ![]() ![]() I spelled my username wrong Joined: 29 Nov 2017 Location: Kilcrohane/WA Status: Offline Points: 786 |
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Agree with both of you, although I'd prefer him in the Championship where there are usually six good teams and a couple with real quality. Also, it would be easier to gauge his progress - or lack of. Only the biased would deny Byrne has excellent talent but he needs to confirm it at a higher level over a sustained period - and stay focussed.
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CillDara ![]() Kevin Kilbane ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Aug 2011 Location: Kildare Status: Offline Points: 453 |
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I think the Championship is more likely to chew him up and spit him out than most other leagues. It is such a competitive league and very physical, so many games and big pressure on managers, if a player doesn't hit the ground running he will be replaced. Agreed would love to see him go back to Holland. I'd love to know how many offers he has gotten or will get, surely a player of his quality, age and for free would be getting a lot of interest. You'd wonder are all clubs on the continent aware of him.
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Mr Brick ![]() Davey Langan ![]() ![]() I spelled my username wrong Joined: 29 Nov 2017 Location: Kilcrohane/WA Status: Offline Points: 786 |
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If Byrne wants to be a factor he must do the hard yakka and prove his worth. Simple as that.
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avfc ![]() Kevin Kilbane ![]() Joined: 27 Aug 2018 Location: Munster Status: Offline Points: 492 |
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What level is the Cypriot League? League 1 maybe? St Pauli would be ideal, he'd love the Reeperbahn
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JoxerDaly ![]() 500 Club la la la ![]() Joined: 03 Apr 2018 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 743 |
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Or internationals. Slovakia have a few lads playing in Cyrpus with plenty of caps. Would be a good move and chance of European football, good weather and if he does well a move to a bigger league could be on cards like Greece or Turkey.
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Left foot ![]() Liam Brady ![]() Joined: 16 Aug 2019 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 2243 |
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Playing in Cyprus? sure he may as well wave a white flag if that's the level he is at his age.
Hes matured as a person over the last couple of years, I'd say he should go for it, aim for a championship team and really test himself and give it his all. If he fails he'll always find a place in the loi
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Failure is all well and good and a return to LOI etc. etc. but he will have to go where the money is good. If he fails and returns, he will unlikely ever get another shot at a decent contract that could potentially set him up for life. Decent level and good bunse needed.
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Left foot ![]() Liam Brady ![]() Joined: 16 Aug 2019 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 2243 |
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Hes nearly 25, should be in his prime right now. Should be pushing the boat out
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NewtNewbie ![]() Liam Brady ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 2013 Status: Offline Points: 2279 |
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Slovakia, Hungary, Norway, Finland and Slovenia, amongst others - ie better teams than us - are quite prepared to call up players playing in Cyprus. I'm not sure we're really in a position to turn our noses up.
People need to start being a bit more realistic as to where we are as a football nation now.
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GoneToShowgies ![]() Ray Houghton ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Jul 2010 Status: Offline Points: 3674 |
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Cyprus! Id be flabbergasted. The lad barely wants to leave the Pale.
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