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Poll Question: What result do you want from Italy v Bulgaria on Wednesday night
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote t_rAndy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Sep 2009 at 5:04am
Originally posted by Bob Hoskins Bob Hoskins wrote:

Even if Italy draw they can lose to us and still top the group.


 
Only if we don't beat Mont. A draw is the best result cause then we play Italy in a match where the winner will win the group (providing we beat Mont too). but also if it is a draw then we can afford to lose to Italy and just beat Mont and we are in a play off.
 
Basically to win the group it doesn't matter if Italy draw or lose, we can still catch them once we beat them.
 
But with Bulgaria we are 5 points clear having played a game more. So if we are on 5 points our maxiumum we can get is 11. Bulgaria can still get 9.
If Bulgaria win then we can still win the group by winning our two games but they win and we even draw with Italy then Bulgaria can catch us on goal difference by winning their remaining games. So draw all around.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bmorgan87 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Sep 2009 at 5:06am

so if bulgaria win their remaining games and we win our remaining games..

could italy be out!?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote t_rAndy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Sep 2009 at 5:18am

Yep. Italy lose 2 games and win one then they are on 20. Bulgaria win their remaining 3 they are also on 20 but would be ahead of Italy in head to head rankings and we would be top on 23.

If Bulgaria win and we win Italy then we will only need to draw against Montenegro to win the group. But would still rather have the security of not having to beat Italy to at least get a play off prodiving we beat Montenegro if we don't beat Italy


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bmorgan87 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Sep 2009 at 5:28am
so if italy win on wedneday nite or hopes of the winning the group are practialy over..
and it would make the last 2 games meaning nothing really..
we would end up drawing with italy and beating monte..
hope that dnt happen though..but looks likely
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12 Italians on yellows Star
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Originally posted by bmorgan87 bmorgan87 wrote:

so if italy win on wedneday nite or hopes of the winning the group are practialy over..
and it would make the last 2 games meaning nothing really..
we would end up drawing with italy and beating monte..
hope that dnt happen though..but looks likely
 
yeah basically if Italian's win then they can afford to lose to us but beat Cyprus at home. Although Cyprus have given a good account of theirselves in the away games against us and Bulgaria
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Originally posted by McGoldrick McGoldrick wrote:

12 Italians on yellows Star
 
The current crop are so out of sorts at the moment I don't know whether it's a good thing or bad thing Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Honey Monster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Sep 2009 at 6:58am
obviously looking for a draw. It would mean that Bulgaria would be all but gone and if we won our last 2 games; we'd be going to South Africa. Didnt think this required such a debate!

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Yeah HM game is on RTE...what time is kick off?
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Originally posted by McGoldrick McGoldrick wrote:

12 Italians on yellows Star
Does that Include Khaladze???
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WindBag Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Sep 2009 at 7:22am

We need a Draw, we should only be worrying about bulgarians,  not about  Italy getting too far ahead.

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kick off time
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Originally posted by greengooner greengooner wrote:

Originally posted by McGoldrick McGoldrick wrote:

12 Italians on yellows Star
Does that Include Khaladze???
 
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Could do with Pirlo getting a straight red on wednesday. He is an unbelievable player. 
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balls to Pirlo it's Buffon you want suspended. The Italian Given
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Donal Cullen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Sep 2009 at 8:02am
Oh, Jaysus, I cannot decide. The draw would suit us perfectly but a Bulgaria win and then an Ireland win against Italy would really put us in the driving chair (whatever that is!!). I just can't handle it! No! My heads gone. Jayus! This early in the morning? Aw, f**k it I'll go for the draw. Maybe. No the win....no the draw. No the win for Italy. What? Italy to win? A draw? Bulgaria to win? Oh, hell lets just win our last two games and be done with it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote t_rAndy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Sep 2009 at 8:39am

Italy to win would be the worst result though. If Bulgaria manage a win we are defo under pressure but we still know two wins would put us through and also Bulgaria still need to go to Cyprus who will have players back from suspension. We only just beat them, Italy only just beat them in Cyprus too and they did give a good account of themselves in their away defeats away to us and bulgaria.

Remaining fixtures for Ireland/Italy/Bulgaria:
 

Italy v Bulgaria

Cyprus v Bulgaria

Rep of Ireland v Italy

Bulgaria v Georgia

Italy v Cyprus

Rep of Ireland v Montenegro

 

 

 
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