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    Posted: 23 Nov 2016 at 11:12pm
Three high profile ex players David White,Steve walters and Paul Stewart have come out this week saying how they were sexually abused by coaches when they were in academies. The last two walters and stewart both at crewe were abused by Barry Bennell.  There could potentially be hundreds of ex players who were affected while in academies, will be interesting to see if any more come out now.

Barry Bennell - The 62-year-old was once employed by Crewe Alexandra football club and had a close association with Stoke City and Manchester City. The court heard during the trial the period of abuse spanned from 1978 to 1992 as he travelled around the North-west and Midlands talent-spotting boys for junior football teams.




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It will make for tough reading.  I expect to hear terms like "YTS" and apprentice again.
Kids (Under-18) were exploited as employees in their workplace and it seems there was some that were sexually abused aswell.

Fair Play to those who are giving their testimony.
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That scumbag coached Gary Speed when he was a kid too, there were rumours about it at the time of Speed's death although there's no evidence he was one of the kids abused. Think it's known that he stayed over in the house though. Crewe really not covering themselves in glory here either, some of this abuse is supposed to have happened at Dario Gradi's house although he was unaware of it. Surprised it's taken this long to start coming out given that your man was jailed in 1999. Very good interview on Off the Ball last night, worth checking the podcast.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/news/9262754/Gary-Speed-was-coached-by-paedophile-as-a-child.html

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Fair play to Andy Woodward for coming forward. I don't think the Speed link will ever be truly known.
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Been reading the Guardian pieces, truly horrific.  Brave lads for finally speaking out.
 
Wonder can Bennell be charged again?
 
Hope he gets what's coming to him.
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Originally posted by FREEWHEELER FREEWHEELER wrote:

Been reading the Guardian pieces, truly horrific.  Brave lads for finally speaking out.
 
Wonder can Bennell be charged again?
 
Hope he gets what's coming to him.
Yes he can, these are all separate incidents and separate cases of breaking the law, I believe his last sentence, 2 years in prison in 2015, was for a similarly 'historic' sexual offence. Given the number of people coming forward and the number and strength of the offences I would imagine he would be looking at another decade behind bars, Superdave might be able to say better.
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Cannot get over this paragraph in the UK Independent piece - 

The criminal proclivities of Crewe's talent spotter were by no means a secret. One boy related details of an episode to his father who, joined by other parents, actually confronted Bennell at his home and told him they were going to involve the police. The paedophile promptly began to cry and held his head in his hands. What happened next was extraordinary. The parents were so concerned about damaging their sons' chances in football by involving police that they did not report them after all and convinced themselves they had nipped the problem in the bud.



Those parents, fooking hell.




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Fooking hell those so called parents should be ashamed of themselves
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Originally posted by seaniemac seaniemac wrote:

Cannot get over this paragraph in the UK Independent piece - 

The criminal proclivities of Crewe's talent spotter were by no means a secret. One boy related details of an episode to his father who, joined by other parents, actually confronted Bennell at his home and told him they were going to involve the police. The paedophile promptly began to cry and held his head in his hands. What happened next was extraordinary. The parents were so concerned about damaging their sons' chances in football by involving police that they did not report them after all and convinced themselves they had nipped the problem in the bud.



Those parents, fooking hell.


Sure in this country, parents outright refused to believe that the local priest could possibly fiddle with their kids. Sadly not surprising at all. 
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Bennett was one sick f**k.
He abused Woodward and then married Woodwards sister and was "happily" married and loved by the family.
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Holy sh*t, that's appalling.

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Originally posted by rossieman rossieman wrote:

Bennett was one sick f**k.
He abused Woodward and then married Woodwards sister and was "happily" married and loved by the family.



What the actual f**k
Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".

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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by rossieman rossieman wrote:

Bennett was one sick f**k.
He abused Woodward and then married Woodwards sister and was "happily" married and loved by the family.



What the actual f**k


That relationship was all f**ked up too.He met her when she was 16 and he made Woodward keep the relationship a secret for a few years because of the age difference(maybe age of consent as well ?) Bennell would have been about 33/34 at the time.The f**ker who raped you becomes your brother in law,poor f**ker had an awful childhood.
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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Fooking hell those so called parents should be ashamed of themselves

if true, how is this not child neglect by the parents?! they should be locked up. Poor lads. sadly this is only the beginning folks. this story is going to get a lot worse...
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Yep. Paul Stewart was saying he's hoping these were isolated cases but accepts that it's likely to be in the hundreds
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Originally posted by randyrandolph randyrandolph wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Fooking hell those so called parents should be ashamed of themselves

if true, how is this not child neglect by the parents?! they should be locked up. Poor lads. sadly this is only the beginning folks. this story is going to get a lot worse...
A former Newcastle player has come forward today, once one is brave enough to come forward a lot more will. I am still waiting for the political paedophile story to be properly broken open, I thought the Cyril Smith enquiry would have done that, there are more influential people at risk there though, they will have to die first.
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Originally posted by randyrandolph randyrandolph wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Fooking hell those so called parents should be ashamed of themselves

if true, how is this not child neglect by the parents?! they should be locked up. Poor lads. sadly this is only the beginning folks. this story is going to get a lot worse...
A former Newcastle player has come forward today, once one is brave enough to come forward a lot more will. I am still waiting for the political paedophile story to be properly broken open, I thought the Cyril Smith enquiry would have done that, there are more influential people at risk there though, they will have to die first.

i hope so. 

read earlier that gary speed had stayed at his house as a young lad... now i know you cant put 2 and 2 together and get 5 and all that but it does make you think...


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Originally posted by randyrandolph randyrandolph wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by randyrandolph randyrandolph wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Fooking hell those so called parents should be ashamed of themselves


if true, how is this not child neglect by the parents?! they should be locked up. Poor lads. sadly this is only the beginning folks. this story is going to get a lot worse...

A former Newcastle player has come forward today, once one is brave enough to come forward a lot more will. I am still waiting for the political paedophile story to be properly broken open, I thought the Cyril Smith enquiry would have done that, there are more influential people at risk there though, they will have to die first.


i hope so. 

read earlier that gary speed had stayed at his house as a young lad... now i know you cant put 2 and 2 together and get 5 and all that but it does make you think...




Speeds parents said at the time of his death Bennell wasn't connected to his suicide.
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