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    Posted: 28 Mar 2015 at 4:11pm
Great stuff from Ken Early. West Dublin's resident rugby fanatic trAndy won't like this. 

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/soccer-feeling-like-unloved-child-in-tale-of-two-sports-1.2156535
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enjoyed that article hugely. nothing against genuine rugby fans (i personally cant get into it at all) but the petulant responses to the article show up glory hunting 'fans' who have no idea what following sport is all about and have a ridiculously overestimated opinion of the rugger lads and their achievements
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Originally posted by OnTheOneRoad OnTheOneRoad wrote:

enjoyed that article hugely. nothing against genuine rugby fans (i personally cant get into it at all) but the petulant responses to the article show up glory hunting 'fans' who have no idea what following sport is all about and have a ridiculously overestimated opinion of the rugger lads and their achievements

You've hit the nail on the head.
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Good read. Jesus some of the comments on that article would make you pull your hair out. 
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I just casually link this page to egg chasers comments Approve
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RTE play a big part in the perceptions of teams. You'd never hear the rugby pundits say such nasty stuff about Irish rugby players. It wouldnt be tolerated by rugby fans.

The likes of Dunphy abuses the players for the cheap lolz. Football fans seem to tolerate and call the it entertainment.


The fans are also to blame. The football players get an awful lot of stick on here. You'd never see rugby fans sl*g of their own players like you do see here.


The 2 sports have a very different culture,
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Loved the bit about the rugby "WORLD" cup.
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Quality piece that. 
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Originally posted by Landon Donovan Landon Donovan wrote:

RTE play a big part in the perceptions of teams. You'd never hear the rugby pundits say such nasty stuff about Irish rugby players. It wouldnt be tolerated by rugby fans.

The likes of Dunphy abuses the players for the cheap lolz. Football fans seem to tolerate and call the it entertainment.


The fans are also to blame. The football players get an awful lot of stick on here. You'd never see rugby fans sl*g of their own players like you do see here.


The 2 sports have a very different culture,

But would George Hook not have a degree of criticism towards the rugby players in the same regard to Dunphy albeit with the use of different language or punctuation?? 
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Originally posted by ABFC ABFC wrote:

Great stuff from Ken Early. West Dublin's resident rugby fanatic trAndy won't like this. 

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/soccer-feeling-like-unloved-child-in-tale-of-two-sports-1.2156535


f**k off.
I read the article earlier and I agree with a lot of it. He makes very valid points. The one that stood out the most is just how talented a footballer you need to be to be a mediocre one on the world stage.

Let's get this straight, I'm a republic of Ireland national football team supporter first and foremost. My love the the Irish football team trounces most other things I care for on this earth!
My points in the rugby thread where more about the how people begrudge the rugby team. But hey thats way we Irish fo best!

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Originally posted by irelandfan irelandfan wrote:

Originally posted by Landon Donovan Landon Donovan wrote:

RTE play a big part in the perceptions of teams. You'd never hear the rugby pundits say such nasty stuff about Irish rugby players. It wouldnt be tolerated by rugby fans.

The likes of Dunphy abuses the players for the cheap lolz. Football fans seem to tolerate and call the it entertainment.


The fans are also to blame. The football players get an awful lot of stick on here. You'd never see rugby fans sl*g of their own players like you do see here.


The 2 sports have a very different culture,


But would George Hook not have a degree of criticism towards the rugby players in the same regard to Dunphy albeit with the use of different language or punctuation?? 



No, he never goes after the players as people or attacks them on an individual basis. Hook and Dunphy is an easy comparison to make but they are extremely different in how they criticize.

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There's also a huge middle class thing about rugby in Dublin, like it's cool if you're a rugby fan kinda thing. Pure bandwagon stuff the last few years. The abuse you get if you mention going to Ireland football matchs can be annoying to say the least .
As an Irish man I'm delighted we do well at rugby but I'd be the first to mention there are only 2 handfuls of decent teams.
I also think it's disgusting the lack of appreciation Robbie keane gets as a player. We will never see his like again.
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1.2 million watched us lose to Croatia

Half that watched the game last week against Scotland.

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Edited by Cabra Hoop - 29 Mar 2015 at 3:28am
" BFC always gives me a laugh........ "
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Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

tis very rare that I agree with Sir Baldrick the Banner Bohemian , but on the subject of Rugby we are quare bedfellows...
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Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

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apologies but my nerves are a bit frayed...ahead of the game
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First of all excellent article by ken, telling it how it is. Why are we even talking about this on a day like today is crazy. Fact what really gets the egg chasers is that their team will never have the same effect the football team gets for events like euro 88, italia 90 etc etc, it really really gets to them. As regards their team i have no time for them whatsover from the fans to the media its a disgrace, we have a true sporting legend in a true world sport in robbie keane but still all we get is nonsense about precious bod. As for their followers most a just celtic tiger types keen to attach themselves to the soulless corporate nonsense that is an irfu game, ever eager to be seen to be invloved in the latest in thing. Stuff them and their team and lets get behind the real boys in green, the peoples team. COME ON IRELAND!!!!
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Declan Lynch has a little pop at rugby today in the Independent.
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/official-ireland-falls-in-love-with-rugby-31102551.html
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