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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Saturday election. Same day as the Ireland v Wales rugby.
That will f**k up the blue shirts, surely?
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No reason you cant vote and go to the match. Polls usually open  early and close late so no excuse. 
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

No reason you cant vote and go to the match. Polls usually open  early and close late so no excuse. 
Heino is one reason.
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those lads get up early you know 
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Pop up polling booth being erected in Wanderers Rugby Club as i type..
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50000 will be at the match. Spread that out between the electorate. Take out those who can just vote and walk to the stadium, or only have an hour or 90 minute drive, voting isn't going to be a major chore. Plus Welsh people!

The only people it may affect is people travelling 3-5 hours for the match, and there will be f**k all of those anyways.

So it will make zero impact in my view. 
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it will have zero impact as you can vote from 8am.  

However small numbers do make a difference in an irish election.  The last seat in a constituency can be determined by what people have put on their 5th or 6th preference. Those final seats could determine whether ff or fg are the largest party or if a coalition us possible or not.  So every vote will count on this as its not like the UK where first past the votes means many votes are meaningless. 
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Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

And then, after FF have been found out to be corrupt, self-serving bastards it will be FG’s turn again...
depressing isnt it. 

Very.

Saw Emmet Kirwan on Twitter saying that the number of people who didn't vote in the last election was greater than the number who voted for FG. Now that is depressing.
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Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

50000 will be at the match. Spread that out between the electorate. Take out those who can just vote and walk to the stadium, or only have an hour or 90 minute drive, voting isn't going to be a major chore. Plus Welsh people!

The only people it may affect is people travelling 3-5 hours for the match, and there will be f**k all of those anyways.

So it will make zero impact in my view. 
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Originally posted by The Huntacha The Huntacha wrote:

Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

And then, after FF have been found out to be corrupt, self-serving bastards it will be FG’s turn again...
depressing isnt it. 

Very.

Saw Emmet Kirwan on Twitter saying that the number of people who didn't vote in the last election was greater than the number who voted for FG. Now that is depressing.
we get what we deserve. It will be the same old rhetoric from so many people... my dad voted Fine Gael and so did his dad before him, so ill vote FG... or this is a FF family so I'm voting FF... Then as you allude to, same people will moan but wont bother their arse voting as their vote wont make a difference. 

At this stage id take a coalition of anyone except FF/FG/Lab just to see what happens. Be nice to get screwed over by someone new
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Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Originally posted by The Huntacha The Huntacha wrote:

Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

And then, after FF have been found out to be corrupt, self-serving bastards it will be FG’s turn again...
depressing isnt it. 

Very.

Saw Emmet Kirwan on Twitter saying that the number of people who didn't vote in the last election was greater than the number who voted for FG. Now that is depressing.
we get what we deserve. It will be the same old rhetoric from so many people... my dad voted Fine Gael and so did his dad before him, so ill vote FG... or this is a FF family so I'm voting FF... Then as you allude to, same people will moan but wont bother their arse voting as their vote wont make a difference. 

At this stage id take a coalition of anyone except FF/FG/Lab just to see what happens. Be nice to get screwed over by someone new

Up until recently ff and fg got 80 % of the vote. They now get about 50%.   That's a huge reduction. 

A coalition of anyone but ff and fg and lab is extremely unlikely as those.3 parties will get about 60%
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Originally posted by The Huntacha The Huntacha wrote:

Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

And then, after FF have been found out to be corrupt, self-serving bastards it will be FG’s turn again...
depressing isnt it. 

Very.

Saw Emmet Kirwan on Twitter saying that the number of people who didn't vote in the last election was greater than the number who voted for FG. Now that is depressing.
we get what we deserve. It will be the same old rhetoric from so many people... my dad voted Fine Gael and so did his dad before him, so ill vote FG... or this is a FF family so I'm voting FF... Then as you allude to, same people will moan but wont bother their arse voting as their vote wont make a difference. 

At this stage id take a coalition of anyone except FF/FG/Lab just to see what happens. Be nice to get screwed over by someone new

Up until recently ff and fg got 80 % of the vote. They now get about 50%.   That's a huge reduction. 

A coalition of anyone but ff and fg and lab is extremely unlikely as those.3 parties will get about 60%

But it would depend on how much one party might get to be able to cobble something together.

You make an interesting point about the reduction in the vote share. Even now, you couldn’t promote a Mullingar Accord like in 2007 as you couldn’t even be sure a basic threshold would be reached to make it worth discussing.
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Not really interesting just a fact and common knowledge.  Ff and fg share of the vote vas reduced massively over last decade or so but they still have leverage of.power. 

Your first point doesnt make sense.  Currently ff and fg and labour have about 60% share of vote.   As a result it's impossible to form a gov without them or their support like sham wishes for above  
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Not really interesting just a fact and common knowledge.  Ff and fg share of the vote vas reduced massively over last decade or so but they still have leverage of.power. 

Your first point doesnt make sense.  Currently ff and fg and labour have about 60% share of vote.   As a result it's impossible to form a gov without them or their support like sham wishes for above  

My point is it depends on how much of the 60% they get.

If one party gets 40% that will make a major difference.
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You are missing my point.  Currently ff and fg and labour make up 60% of the votes. As a result it’s impossible to form a gov without any one of ff, fg or labour as sham wishes in his posts above. 

That is true regardless how that 60% is split.
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

You are missing my point.  Currently ff and fg and labour make up 60% of the votes. As a result it’s impossible to form a gov without any one of ff, fg or labour as sham wishes in his posts above. 

That is true regardless how that 60% is split.

Sorry, what I read was that you’d need a form of coalition between FF/FG/Lab. your post seemed to suggest that. Especially with the reference to Lab, whose vote share is small and will undoubtedly stagnate at its current low level.

The is no doubt that FF and/or FG will lead a Government. However, the split of the vote would determine who might be able to go in with them. A large enough share of the 60 % could necessitate cooperation with less coalition components or reliance on a single coalition partner and sympathetic independents.
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I was replying to Sham it was obvious. Sham said he wanted a gov without any of those three parties 


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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

I was replying to Sham it was obvious. Sham said he wanted a gov without any of those three parties 

Not from what I was reading. But anyway. I didn’t actually read Sham’s Post.


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