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The Huntacha
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So giving a reference for a paedophile is ok once it's titled "To whom it may concern". Ok.
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Jimmy Bullard - "Favorite band? Elastic."
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the_walls
Jack Charlton 6 in a row, alive alive oh.. Joined: 13 Feb 2009 Location: Walkinstown Status: Offline Points: 5182 |
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I can't for the life of me figure figure why there is any issue or backlash with SF holding public meetings? What issue could anyone possibly have with a political party engaging with the public?
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Trap junior
Robbie Keane YBIG Minister of Doom & Gloom Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Irish Riviera Status: Offline Points: 39812 |
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People are afraid they are planning commemorations for the Black and Tans
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Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more...
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9fingers
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It’s bizarre
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Trap junior
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If Sinn Fein get into power in a united Ireland they plan on sweetening the deal for unionists by offering them free health care in the form of free knee reconstruction
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Martiponti
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 23 Dec 2018 Location: Montreal Status: Offline Points: 364 |
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Just a thought: I imagine that the sucess of SF may, in part, be down to the obliteration of the power of the catholic church.Ireland needed a strong left leaning party since the foundation of the State, to correct the very clear social injustices.The c. church would, in days gone, have used fear on a cowed people, to make sure that their FF/FG lackeys were kept in power and that godless Lefties were kept down.The priests are metaphorically f**ked, people can't be cowed by them into not wanting a fair society.The church power has been gone years now, but their former lackeys created the perfect situation for people to look Left.No church to stop them now
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Het-field
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Sinn Fein are a populist party. They ain’t left.
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Martiponti
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When you say "they ain't left" are you paraphrasing the Supreme Leader, " they haven't gone away"?
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Het-field
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They are not a left party.
And your thought isn’t original or unchartered.
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Martiponti
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OooOooh! Tetchy! You're sounding like a man who is nervous
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pre Madonna
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Correct. One of my biggest concerns about them is their failure over the years to properly condemn the church. There may be an element of truth in the earlier post, but SF have always been afraid of being too critical of the one true church.
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Stickittotheman
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Despite their fall from Grace in the south in NI they still hold a little sway especially in rural areas. It could alienate support up here.
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Walters coming back from an offside position but Shane Long was definitely onside- Shane Lonnggggggg.... has done it!!!!
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Stickittotheman
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I would disagree. They would probably be centre left now. A centre left party with aspects of populist policies. If any party is a broad church, populist party it is Fianna Fail.
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Walters coming back from an offside position but Shane Long was definitely onside- Shane Lonnggggggg.... has done it!!!!
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Het-field
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FF invented that style of populism It reminds me of how FFers won’t admit to being centre right or left, or accept where they fall on the dubious political spectrum. But SF are on the way. The manifesto was proof positive of that. Like I’ve said, a legitimate left leaning manifesto would be significantly more robust in the area of tax increases in order to explain and manage the expenditure increases. SF went for the increase in expense, without cost to most taxpayers. And SF were never expected to explain it. Even the issues that have arisen with members of the PP since the election, it shows how “broad church” SF is.
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SuperDave84
Robbie Keane ooh Thomas, how could you do this to me! Joined: 26 Aug 2011 Location: Far Fungannon Status: Offline Points: 21384 |
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Given that their traditional heartland is a statelet that was wildly, institutionally and irredeemably discriminatory on a unapologetic, blatant, solely religious and sectarian basis, and that that statelet remains, by definition, institutionally sectarian, given the unavoidable result of a political reality featuring a governing structure of enforced coalition, you can't be too surprised that SF don't criticise the CC too frequently.
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Martiponti
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I think you should have said, "uncharted."
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Martiponti
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That's for Het_ field
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pre Madonna
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But that makes them self-serving rather than principled and very much part of the problem rather than the solution.
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