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 MayoMark wrote:

 SuperDave84 wrote:

 Het-field wrote:

 Shedite wrote:

 Trap junior wrote:

I'm not a veggie but I have to say I have gone right off red meat and have no real liking for it apart from burgers etc.  Never was a fan of steak or roast beef etc.  Lamb chops and beef you cut open and you can just see all the sticky fat marbled through it.  Fairly disgusting tbh.  I like chicken and sausages and stuff. 
Same here, down to about 2 days a week where I'd have a meat meal. Oat Milk in the coffee too - far nicer.
Once ya get away from the mindset that a meal has to revolve around a piece of meat there's a lot more space on the plate for tasty stuff. I find chicken very bland (unless ya douce it in buffalo sauce or whatever)

Milk in coffee! No way!

I’m also down on the meat eating. It actually broadens the range of meals that you look for and you start finding good alternatives which are not meat substitutes.

The reality is though, veganism has the plausible acceptability of saving the, but the claim doesn’t make sense. Particularly when parts of the world simply cannot sustain growth of certain foodstuffs central to a vegan diet.

But they can sustain the growth of foodstuffs central to an omnivorous diet?

Growing crops to give to animals to then slaughter those animals to feed humans is always going to be more inefficient than simply growing crops for human consumption. The choice of crops is obviously an issue but there are no foodstuffs that are individually central to any vegan diet, or even any broad category of foods.

And on a completely unrelated point (not a reply to the post above) it is easy to reduce the size of the national herd: you simply stop breeding cattle for a while. As it is, there are roughly an equal number of calves born to cows slaughtered. If you stop breeding but keep slaughtering, the herd reduces. Vegans, the most militant aside, aren't suggesting a ban on slaughtering cattle and it is easy to reduce the size of the herd if you so wish. I'm not saying that it has any climate efficacy or not (I don't know the ins and outs of it) but to claim that it can't be done in a way acceptable to vegans seems to presuppose a vegan dictatorship.

This does seem to happen and be suggested a lot. Even a couple of comments here suggested that, using anecdotal evidence of some mad vegans from some time or another doing mad stuff.

Stop breeding for a while to reduce herd wont work. Cattle raised for beef usually slaughtered between 12-24 months depending on breed. So if you dont breed for 2 years then you have no beef. Older cattle not much good for anything but dogfood. If you want to reduce herd ya need to cull the older livestock. Also if ya didnt allow farmers breed cattle for beef for a while most would go bankrupt. 