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Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by sausy sausy wrote:

I rather see an increase from 90% to 95% for FTB's. Will still make people save but make home ownership more obtainable for a lot more people.

One thing that has been said to me before is that Irish folk have a strange attitudes towards savings. Apparently we have a very low rate of people who invest, and a lot of people I know leave their money either in extremely low interest savings accounts, or worse still, in their current account, with no return, and effectively have the money sitting in a mattress, as far as developing savings is concerned.

Now I’m not sure that this is entirely true, but I feel there is a serious lack in financial education in the country and that plays in to people’s disposable income, which in best terms should be set aside, in the best yielding accounts with a view to using it to finance property purchases and retirement. 

It's 100% true, I'm as guilty as anyone on that count. Definitely should be part of education system imo. 

I think it would be invaluable going forward. I find it bizarre that many of my generation won’t go near a credit card. A Credit Card with a small limit linked to your Luas Card and your monthly Gym fee can be invaluable as you try and build a good credit rating And if you don’t trust yourself with it, stick it in a secure place at home and never bring it with you. Tracking your expenses is also easier than ever with contactless payments. There are minor little things that I’ve been stunned that people aren’t aware of, but could make a major difference.
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100% mortgages are a crazy idea as more and more people move to the gig economy and there are less permanent and pensionable jobs for life. 

 

The future of work is more precarious and less permanent. 

 

Mortgages were a by-product of workers obtaining rights to a permanent and pensionable long term job for life which usually meant your wages increased over time and as a result the mortgage became more affordable.  

 

That has changed massively along with other societal changes such as double incomes, increased urbanisation, lower interest rates. 

 

Add all these things together and you get a situation where workers on wages above the average wage and more important the mean wage, cannot afford to buy a home where they work. 



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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

100% mortgages are a crazy idea as more and more people move to the gig economy and there are less permanent and pensionable jobs for life. 

 

The future of work is more precarious and less permanent. 

 

Mortgages were a by-product of workers obtaining rights to a permanent and pensionable long term job for life which usually meant your wages increased over time and as a result the mortgage became more affordable.  

 

That has changed massively along with other societal changes such as double incomes, increased urbanisation, lower interest rates. 

 

Add all these things together and you get a situation where workers on wages above the average wage and more important the mean wage, cannot afford to buy a home where they work. 


But there are already things like contractor mortgages available, where the banks have adjusted their thinking about who is eligible. The mentality is that although jobs can be permanent on paper, there are a number of factors that could compromise this. There is also the option not to provide a 100% mortgage to a contractor, or a contractor who has just entered that economy, or has not got a track record of repeated contracts and ease of work.

Like I said, it can only be part of the solution. But we have to be very cautious about discounting the benefits of the 100% mortgage, when the right circumstances are available.
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Originally posted by cliffrichard cliffrichard wrote:

If we had a motorway from Cork to Limerick, we then would have a direct connection by motorway from Cork all the way to nearly Sligo. You suddenly have four cities (Cork, Limerick, Galway and Sligo) all closely linked and you can push some sort of "Western Seaboard" economic hub to FDI. 




Well, not exactly. Motorway stops in Tuam. Sligo to Charlestown (47km) is pathetic. Charlestown to Ballindine (39km) is very good single carriageway (Knock Airport is on this route). Ballindine to Tuam (20km) is mediocre at best, and was originally supposed to be Motorway, but they ended up stopping in Tuam. If all of the above was cleaned up, along with the reopening on the Athenry to Claremorris railway (30 miles or so) and the Limerick Cork Motorway, you would have rail and road connectivity nearly the whole way up the west coast. The main roads in Donegal are quite good I find, but apparently when off the beaten path they are absolutely shocking. 

The name on this is actually the Atlantic Economic Corridor, and really should connect to Derry as well. 

Then, connectivity is reasonable from Dublin to the West.

-Motorway to Galway, excellent.
-N5 to Westport, very good in parts, very poor in parts. Upgrades due to go past Strokestown which would improve further but work is needed from Mullingar to Longford.
-Sligo, Dual carriageway badly needed towards Longford where it connects to N5. Sligo Dublin road is truly shocking.


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Originally posted by Lenny82 Lenny82 wrote:

That is one solution alright but we have an awful sense of entitlement in this country. Just because somebody wants to live in Dublin, or Cork say, doesn't mean they are entitled to.

I know plenty of people who would have loved to have bought in Dublin but instead bought in Kildare/Meath/Louth. I would argue that very few home owners have actually bought their dream house in their dream location.

There are 10,500 properties currently for sale in Ireland for €200k or less, which are within range for the mortgage our fictitious single person on €50k could achieve.


Nothing to do with entitlement. For.many people if they want a decent job in their area they need to move to a larger city. 

Big companies the world over like big cities to base themselves   

What good is a 200k house in a place that you cant get a job.   Ridiculous post  
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Lenny82 Lenny82 wrote:

That is one solution alright but we have an awful sense of entitlement in this country. Just because somebody wants to live in Dublin, or Cork say, doesn't mean they are entitled to.

I know plenty of people who would have loved to have bought in Dublin but instead bought in Kildare/Meath/Louth. I would argue that very few home owners have actually bought their dream house in their dream location.

There are 10,500 properties currently for sale in Ireland for €200k or less, which are within range for the mortgage our fictitious single person on €50k could achieve.


Nothing to do with entitlement. For.many people if they want a decent job in their area they need to move to a larger city. 

Big companies the world over like big cities to base themselves   

What good is a 200k house in a place that you cant get a job.   Ridiculous post  

People can, and do, commute. It is a compromise for many.
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Originally posted by Lenny82 Lenny82 wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Lenny82 Lenny82 wrote:

That is one solution alright but we have an awful sense of entitlement in this country. Just because somebody wants to live in Dublin, or Cork say, doesn't mean they are entitled to.

I know plenty of people who would have loved to have bought in Dublin but instead bought in Kildare/Meath/Louth. I would argue that very few home owners have actually bought their dream house in their dream location.

There are 10,500 properties currently for sale in Ireland for €200k or less, which are within range for the mortgage our fictitious single person on €50k could achieve.


Nothing to do with entitlement. For.many people if they want a decent job in their area they need to move to a larger city. 

Big companies the world over like big cities to base themselves   

What good is a 200k house in a place that you cant get a job.   Ridiculous post  

People can, and do, commute. It is a compromise for many.

Yeah but long commutes are a result of bad planning and a lack of a regional good regional policy.  It makes no sense for us to be building out and have people commuting long distances.  There isn't many places within commuting distance  of Dublin where houses are 200K. 
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Lenny82 Lenny82 wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Lenny82 Lenny82 wrote:

That is one solution alright but we have an awful sense of entitlement in this country. Just because somebody wants to live in Dublin, or Cork say, doesn't mean they are entitled to.

I know plenty of people who would have loved to have bought in Dublin but instead bought in Kildare/Meath/Louth. I would argue that very few home owners have actually bought their dream house in their dream location.

There are 10,500 properties currently for sale in Ireland for €200k or less, which are within range for the mortgage our fictitious single person on €50k could achieve.


Nothing to do with entitlement. For.many people if they want a decent job in their area they need to move to a larger city. 

Big companies the world over like big cities to base themselves   

What good is a 200k house in a place that you cant get a job.   Ridiculous post  

People can, and do, commute. It is a compromise for many.

Yeah but long commutes are a result of bad planning and a lack of a regional good regional policy.  It makes no sense for us to be building out and have people commuting long distances.  There isn't many places within commuting distance  of Dublin where houses are 200K. 

The days of congregating to the office for 9am are slowly coming to an end which MAY help in some instances depending on industry. 

 
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I hope whatever happens that all these far right populist gobsh*tes get a metaphorical flake of a hurley across the back of the head from the electorate

I'm actually increasingly depressed by the all-pervasive negativity surrounding political discourse so here's a cross-party list of TDs I want to get in:

Aodhan O'Riordain - the most enlightened drugs minister this country has had and an all round good guy

Padraig MacLochlainn - a great advocate for Travellers

Catherine Connolly - an excellent left-wing TD for Galway

Ged Nash - Ireland needs Labour to begin the road back and if it's to do that it needs him

Christy Burke - probably his last chance to become a TD

Kate O'Connell - she's gorgeous and and as Fine Gaelers go she's not the worst and is firmly on their liberal wing

Pascal Donohue - slightly less gorgeous but again not the worst

Any Green representative but especially Saoirse McHugh, the Dail needs an attractive, bolshy disruptor

Richard Boyd Barrett - the most persuasive of the Solidarity/ULA/PBP/PBPA/Socialist Party/whatever you're having yourself crowd


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The racist f**kwit far-right candidates will get hardly any votes. Their supporters are vocal on social media but the overwhelming majority of people just ignore/laugh at these headers.

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My hope is:

(A) The SDs do a DL and takeover Labour with Catherine Murphy as leader.

(B) The Trots evaporate.

(C) No far right winger retains their deposit.

(D) The Shinners lose seats.




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My hope is:

(A) The SDs do a DL and takeover Labour with Catherine Murphy as leader.

(B) The Trots evaporate.

(C) No far right winger retains their deposit.

(D) The Shinners lose seats.


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Vote Galway's Daragh O'Flaherty who has a degree in homelessness.


This is his flyer from the locals





Sounds like promising some of  these things rather than anything else LOL


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