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Originally posted by Mikethemiz Mikethemiz wrote:

Is what i'm saying not fact AM?
 
Well some of its not, no. Not that i'm even gonna explain it.
 
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Born in Antrim = UK resident.

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Originally posted by Mikethemiz Mikethemiz wrote:

Do Northern Irish Catholics & Nationalists pay taxes in Ireland? (rhetorical question) No? Then they shouldn't be allowed vote in the Republic of Ireland. Let's get the Irish Americans to vote in the election while we're at it. Personally I don't see anyone from NI as Irish, they're Northern Irish in my eyes. The people in that country ( not all might I add) have really tarnished what foreigners think of this country. In the States last year somebody asked me "is there still a war going on in Ireland?" They offered nothing but trouble to this small island and if possible i'd cut them off and let them float off into the Atlantic. Does that view make me any less Irish than some of the romantic Republicans on here.
 
my my my what have we here  ?and i thought it was only the British that were fond of telling people what nationality they are. So if it wasnt for NI,  Ireland would be the land of milk and honey and everything would be just grand , We would be just great and americans would like us even more.
 
I am irish, just like my parents and just like my grandparents and thankfully every border guard I encounter on my travels supporting my country reackons I am Irish too thats kinda  good enough for me. and should I ever get into trouble abroad the Irish embassy will do as much for me as they would for you probably more as they would probably concur with AM opinion
 
thankfully while you are entitled to your opinion it is irellevent
 
for the record do I think we should have a vote in a general election - no
 
in the presidental election ? probably but I wont lose any sleep over it


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How come Irish citizens abroad can vote in the general election but not in a presidential election?
 


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Originally posted by Mikethemiz Mikethemiz wrote:

Do Northern Irish Catholics & Nationalists pay taxes in Ireland? (rhetorical question) No? Then they shouldn't be allowed vote in the Republic of Ireland. Let's get the Irish Americans to vote in the election while we're at it. Personally I don't see anyone from NI as Irish, they're Northern Irish in my eyes. The people in that country ( not all might I add) have really tarnished what foreigners think of this country. In the States last year somebody asked me "is there still a war going on in Ireland?" They offered nothing but trouble to this small island and if possible i'd cut them off and let them float off into the Atlantic. Does that view make me any less Irish than some of the romantic Republicans on here.
 
So let me get this straight. Before partition we were all part of the United Kingdom, so we were all Irish but also we were all British. The British Government then decides to draw a line through a map of this country, creating a gerrymandered state in the North in order to give unionism the largest amount of territory possible. Upon this atrificial state being created the people living there, who were born as Irish people like the rest of us, as were their parents and their grandparents, just suddenly ceased to be Irish and became "Northern Irish"? Despite them having no control or a say over this artifical border? Their nationality was just wiped away from that day? Its an incredible attitude to hold. We got out independence but screw the rest of ye, we want nothing to do with ye. What if the Boundary Commission had done their job properly? Derry City, a good chunk of Fermanagh, Tyrone and South Armagh would have been transferred to the Free State. The people there would have continued to be Irish according to you but because of a quirk of history they are condemned to being "Northern Irish" like someones identity and nationality can be taken away just like that. What if unionism had the numbers to include Donegal in the North? Would the Irishness of people from Donegal be negated? As I say an absolutely incredible attitude to hold
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Originally posted by AntrimMan AntrimMan wrote:

Originally posted by Mikethemiz Mikethemiz wrote:

Do Northern Irish Catholics & Nationalists pay taxes in Ireland? (rhetorical question) No? Then they shouldn't be allowed vote in the Republic of Ireland. Let's get the Irish Americans to vote in the election while we're at it. Personally I don't see anyone from NI as Irish, they're Northern Irish in my eyes. The people in that country ( not all might I add) have really tarnished what foreigners think of this country. In the States last year somebody asked me "is there still a war going on in Ireland?" They offererd nothing but trouble to this small island and if possible id cut them off and let them float off into the Atlantic. Does that view make me any less Irish than some of the romantic Republicans on here.
Nope. Does make you a c**t though.
 
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Originally posted by the_walls the_walls wrote:

Originally posted by Mikethemiz Mikethemiz wrote:

Do Northern Irish Catholics & Nationalists pay taxes in Ireland? (rhetorical question) No? Then they shouldn't be allowed vote in the Republic of Ireland. Let's get the Irish Americans to vote in the election while we're at it. Personally I don't see anyone from NI as Irish, they're Northern Irish in my eyes. The people in that country ( not all might I add) have really tarnished what foreigners think of this country. In the States last year somebody asked me "is there still a war going on in Ireland?" They offered nothing but trouble to this small island and if possible i'd cut them off and let them float off into the Atlantic. Does that view make me any less Irish than some of the romantic Republicans on here.
 
So let me get this straight. Before partition we were all part of the United Kingdom, so we were all Irish but also we were all British. The British Government then decides to draw a line through a map of this country, creating a gerrymandered state in the North in order to give unionism the largest amount of territory possible. Upon this atrificial state being created the people living there, who were born as Irish people like the rest of us, as were their parents and their grandparents, just suddenly ceased to be Irish and became "Northern Irish"? Despite them having no control or a say over this artifical border? Their nationality was just wiped away from that day? Its an incredible attitude to hold. We got out independence but screw the rest of ye, we want nothing to do with ye. What if the Boundary Commission had done their job properly? Derry City, a good chunk of Fermanagh, Tyrone and South Armagh would have been transferred to the Free State. The people there would have continued to be Irish according to you but because of a quirk of history they are condemned to being "Northern Irish" like someones identity and nationality can be taken away just like that. What if unionism had the numbers to include Donegal in the North? Would the Irishness of people from Donegal be negated? As I say an absolutely incredible attitude to hold
 
 
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Originally posted by the_walls the_walls wrote:

Originally posted by Mikethemiz Mikethemiz wrote:

Do Northern Irish Catholics & Nationalists pay taxes in Ireland? (rhetorical question) No? Then they shouldn't be allowed vote in the Republic of Ireland. Let's get the Irish Americans to vote in the election while we're at it. Personally I don't see anyone from NI as Irish, they're Northern Irish in my eyes. The people in that country ( not all might I add) have really tarnished what foreigners think of this country. In the States last year somebody asked me "is there still a war going on in Ireland?" They offered nothing but trouble to this small island and if possible i'd cut them off and let them float off into the Atlantic. Does that view make me any less Irish than some of the romantic Republicans on here.
 
So let me get this straight. Before partition we were all part of the United Kingdom, so we were all Irish but also we were all British. The British Government then decides to draw a line through a map of this country, creating a gerrymandered state in the North in order to give unionism the largest amount of territory possible. Upon this atrificial state being created the people living there, who were born as Irish people like the rest of us, as were their parents and their grandparents, just suddenly ceased to be Irish and became "Northern Irish"? Despite them having no control or a say over this artifical border? Their nationality was just wiped away from that day? Its an incredible attitude to hold. We got out independence but screw the rest of ye, we want nothing to do with ye. What if the Boundary Commission had done their job properly? Derry City, a good chunk of Fermanagh, Tyrone and South Armagh would have been transferred to the Free State. The people there would have continued to be Irish according to you but because of a quirk of history they are condemned to being "Northern Irish" like someones identity and nationality can be taken away just like that. What if unionism had the numbers to include Donegal in the North? Would the Irishness of people from Donegal be negated? As I say an absolutely incredible attitude to hold
 
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Originally posted by AntrimMan AntrimMan wrote:

Originally posted by Mikethemiz Mikethemiz wrote:

Is what i'm saying not fact AM?
 
Well some of its not, no. Not that i'm even gonna explain it.
 
Theres a saying - Don't wrestle with a pig. You'll both get covered in sh*te, but only the pig will enjoy it.
 
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Originally posted by the_walls the_walls wrote:

Originally posted by Mikethemiz Mikethemiz wrote:

Do Northern Irish Catholics & Nationalists pay taxes in Ireland? (rhetorical question) No? Then they shouldn't be allowed vote in the Republic of Ireland. Let's get the Irish Americans to vote in the election while we're at it. Personally I don't see anyone from NI as Irish, they're Northern Irish in my eyes. The people in that country ( not all might I add) have really tarnished what foreigners think of this country. In the States last year somebody asked me "is there still a war going on in Ireland?" They offered nothing but trouble to this small island and if possible i'd cut them off and let them float off into the Atlantic. Does that view make me any less Irish than some of the romantic Republicans on here.
 
So let me get this straight. Before partition we were all part of the United Kingdom, so we were all Irish but also we were all British. The British Government then decides to draw a line through a map of this country, creating a gerrymandered state in the North in order to give unionism the largest amount of territory possible. Upon this atrificial state being created the people living there, who were born as Irish people like the rest of us, as were their parents and their grandparents, just suddenly ceased to be Irish and became "Northern Irish"? Despite them having no control or a say over this artifical border? Their nationality was just wiped away from that day? Its an incredible attitude to hold. We got out independence but screw the rest of ye, we want nothing to do with ye. What if the Boundary Commission had done their job properly? Derry City, a good chunk of Fermanagh, Tyrone and South Armagh would have been transferred to the Free State. The people there would have continued to be Irish according to you but because of a quirk of history they are condemned to being "Northern Irish" like someones identity and nationality can be taken away just like that. What if unionism had the numbers to include Donegal in the North? Would the Irishness of people from Donegal be negated? As I say an absolutely incredible attitude to hold
 
Great post.
 
@Mikethemiz - I absolutely despise your attitude.
 
 
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Originally posted by corkery corkery wrote:

I'm all for a united country but I'm not in favour of this because the office of President effects the laws of people living in this state. They also don't pay tax.
 
 
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Originally posted by Mikethemiz Mikethemiz wrote:

Are SerbS & Croats still Yugoslavian? ...... NO, history is history and Northern Ireland will remain there for our lifetime, our kids and their kids lifetime. In the next 50 years more and more Catholics will see themselves as Northern Irish instead of Irish, i'm nearly sure of that.
 
Antrim Man, you are Northern Irish, a resident of the United Kingdom & you pay your taxes to the Queen funding the United Kingdom of Great Britain. All you have to do with Ireland is that you support the football team. That's a FACT

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Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

How come Irish citizens abroad can vote in the general election but not in a presidential election?
 
 
They can't vote in a general election either.
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