Irish Citizens in the North/ Presidential election

Personally I think its a disgrace they are not allowed to vote in this... For example, Darron Gibson, Marc Wilson, Paddy Barnes, etc have represented the Irish nation/ people internationally but there not able to vote for the head of state of the very country they represent.... That disgusts me

Everyone born in the North is an Irish citizen by birth, not just fellow county () men. So all the Unionists could vote as well if they wanted to. Might make for an interesting outcome...

We should have the right to vote in this, we are all Irish.

Never new they are not allowed to vote :(

soccerc wrote: System is fair as it stands. Giving a vote to  non resident citizens or passport holders would be an abuse. If they don't live here permanently then tough. If you want to be in a position to exercise this valuable franchise then come live here, pay tax here but don't expect us that do contribute to our society on a daily basis to have views of those who don't foisted upon us.

gets tricky then though, how do you define pemanently?! Anyone who lives in england for a few years could easily fly over and vote, while someone who may be on work/studying further abroad for a relatively short period of time can not vote

nvidic wrote: soccerc wrote: System is fair as it stands. Giving a vote to  non resident citizens or passport holders would be an abuse. If they don't live here permanently then tough. If you want to be in a position to exercise this valuable franchise then come live here, pay tax here but don't expect us that do contribute to our society on a daily basis to have views of those who don't foisted upon us. gets tricky then though, how do you define pemanently?! Anyone who lives in england for a few years could easily fly over and vote, while someone who may be on work/studying further abroad for a relatively short period of time can not vote

The conditions for a Postal Vote are strong and tight for a specific reason - to avoid fraud. Just look at recent events in UK where postal voting was allowed to a wider range of qualifiers.

Can't see how someone who lives in England can obtain a vote easily as the compilation of the Register of Electors is fair and fairly secure.  I accept that students or workers on short term assignments abroad are disenfranchised albeit temporarily but likewise if I was hospitalised while on election day.

soccerc wrote: nvidic wrote: soccerc wrote: System is fair as it stands. Giving a vote to  non resident citizens or passport holders would be an abuse. If they don't live here permanently then tough. If you want to be in a position to exercise this valuable franchise then come live here, pay tax here but don't expect us that do contribute to our society on a daily basis to have views of those who don't foisted upon us. gets tricky then though, how do you define pemanently?! Anyone who lives in england for a few years could easily fly over and vote, while someone who may be on work/studying further abroad for a relatively short period of time can not vote The conditions for a Postal Vote are strong and tight for a specific reason - to avoid fraud. Just look at recent events in UK where postal voting was allowed to a wider range of qualifiers. Can't see how someone who lives in England can obtain a vote easily as the compilation of the Register of Electors is fair and fairly secure.  I accept that students or workers on short term assignments abroad are disenfranchised albeit temporarily but likewise if I was hospitalised while on election day.

I automatically get sent my card at home.. can't imagine it's too tricky to move your address to a relatives home and recieves cards there.. although you'd have to be fairly pushed to do ti and i'd say literally no-one does that! There should be a few more exceptions but overall hard to say it'd make a difference to the vote, Northern Irish lads voting however might have an impact.

Jerryfromkerry wrote: Such partitionist sh*te soccerc

 

My own personal view is that Northern Ireland is an independent state therefore I said no. I would hope in the future that NI could be full independent state, completely self-governed, self-sustainable and capable of standing on its own rather than a qualifed version of home rule. Surely that has to be the next logical development.