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Jack Charlton Trapattoni could manage me any day! Joined: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6518 |
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You have some set on vera non stop posting on it.
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Baldrick
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Nearly as much as you love Ryan Manning and Torun ❤️❤️
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AKA pedantic kunt
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Honey Monster
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I think a lot of fans who think we didn't do as well as we should have, need a serious reality check.
It wasn't long ago our Women's side had to change out of their tracksuits in the airport to hand them back to the FAI. We have come on so much in the last few years but still have a long way to go to get properly near the countries who have massively invested in the game for a couple of decades. Down here the Matildas are far more famous than the men's team. They are on every second ad and they are household names playing with top teams including Chelsea, Arenal and Real. Abbey Larkin, an 18 year old from Rovers, came on in front of 75000 crazy Aussie fans and ran rings around them. Just look at the crazy stat of the difference between the number of caps between the 2 sets of subs at the Canada game. They were lightyears ahead and we still pushed them all the way. Pauw has done an incredible job regardless of the whether she should or shouldn't have said certain things. Ask any fan who was in Pauw's company over the past few weeks; she could not have been nicer, more passionate and more proud of her team. Having been to Athens in June and watching the girls play over the last 2 weeks, I can easily say that the girls show much more pride and passion wearing the green jersey right now and Pauw has been massively behind that. If we lose her, it'll be a massive setback. It'll be back to someone like Noel King going around in circles
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lassassinblanc
Paul McGrath Cheese, it’s not just for eating Joined: 27 Sep 2010 Location: Clairefontaine Status: Offline Points: 16478 |
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Wow that actually makes my head hurt
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horsebox
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McCabe's outburst was caught on camera and picked up by everybody including the journalists who posed the question to Pauw, she played it down really by saying yeah she's not the coach etc... I have no issue in McCabe as captain approaching the manager and asking to make changes or looking to alter formation etc... it's the manner in which she did it is the issue - the petulance. We see these things happen in every game but it's done in a more subtle way. |
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Strazdas
Jack Charlton Joined: 17 Nov 2014 Status: Offline Points: 5485 |
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Yes, there's almost a narrative going around now that we could have qualified for the World Cup under just about any manager and that, if anything, Pauw is holding the team back (!) For sure, she can be very blunt and direct in press conferences and interviews but that's just her management style. The way it is being glibly stated that it is now time for her to go and the suggestion that she is easily replaceable does make me wonder if we're going to end up with someone inferior in the role. The press haven't exactly covered themselves in glory either, asking loads of questions of players bang in the middle of the World Cup about the manager's future.
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BigStrongMan
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Ah give over that’s the job of the press/media
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9fingers
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To be fair this is the FAIs fault, again. Between this & the Packie Bonner incident recently they haven’t said a word and made both situations worse. Very poor leadership/management
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Baldrick
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Her contract expires at the end of the competition of course she going to be asked questions. They are doing their job. They are not cheerleaders or fans or there to help the team. They are there to cover the story and investigate and uncover any stories being hidden or glossed over. They were standard questions and if there was no issues in the squad they would have been batted away quite easily. The vacuum from the fai and lack of support from the players has left Vera exposed. She knows it too.
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Het-field
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It seems to be a prevalent narrative about Irish international football in general. Demands to play more open attacking football, and assuming that results will automatically be better, or will eventually get better.
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Strazdas
Jack Charlton Joined: 17 Nov 2014 Status: Offline Points: 5485 |
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In the middle of the tournament though and between games? It hardly seems the time and place. I'm not sure what it added to our World Cup experience either and may well have introduced a sour note to the whole thing and how it ended.
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Baldrick
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I think you want the journalists to basically be fai media people. That’s not their job. They are not there to help the team or make it a nice experience for them. They are not fans with laptops.
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Banana_RepublicFC
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There are lots of bad journalists, but good ones are worth listening to/reading. We can't have censorship. Some stories need to be told. Even if the truth is sometimes ugly.
The really top managers build up a rapport with journalists or an element of control over the press. Fergie was so secure in his role at United, that he was able to almost bully journalists at times. He could have journalists banned from press conferences or decide not to do interviews with media outlets he didn't like e.g. The BBC. The means you can control the narrative more. At the end of the day, journalists are fine if they're asking reasonable questions and getting the truth out there.
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Strazdas
Jack Charlton Joined: 17 Nov 2014 Status: Offline Points: 5485 |
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I've no issue at all with journalists asking about the manager's future but I'd say even the players were not too pleased about being asked bang in the middle of the World Cup and between games, especially if there actually 'is' some tension behind the scenes. In fairness to the press though, at least some of them have been very fairly balanced this week. For example, I saw both Daniel McDonnell and David Kelly in the Indo criticise both Pauw and McCabe for having a bit of a public spat during and after the Nigeria game, rather than coming down on one side or the other.
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rebelbrowser
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I thought the question in the presser to Pauw about attending the home coming was over the line. It was like she is leaving in disgrace or some such.
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turbo10
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I agree she has done a great job in her 4 years. Obviously the most successful manager the ladies team have ever had. It seems clear that she is not all the players cup of tea. I fear though that some of the same players will look back in a few years and think actually things we're too bad under Vera.
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Banana_RepublicFC
Liam Brady Joined: 29 Mar 2022 Status: Offline Points: 1511 |
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Not when Éire lift The World Cup in 2027.
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