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John Nice
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I'd personally go Doherty (assuming Coleman is fit), Mc Clean, O'Dowda in that order. O'Dowda is the least defensively capable in my view, although none fill me with confidence. Coman does lot of his best work cutting inside so for that reason, the right footed Doherty may be the best option. It's a tough call for the manager, but O'Dowda has no defensive instincts whatsoever and is the least experienced of the 3 playing the role.
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Maccatacca
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If I was to pick one french player to miss the game against us I'd go for Greizmann. He's their main creative force and when he's not in the game, Mbappe has to go deep to collect the ball which means he's not in our box ad much or terrorising us on the flanks. No De Jong for Holland tomorrow, let's hope for a comfy France win 2-0 or so, and they'll come to Dublin thinking job done for this window.
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Agreed on the france winning tomorrow thing.
Looking forward to Monday now and a few Scoops in Ringsend. havent been able to drink at a game in months.
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John Nice
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Fwiw, I think it will be Doherty
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John Nice
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Just to expand on that. The whole point of playing Doherty last night (which we all agreed with I think) was to give him minutes to shake off the rustiness. Was he rusty, yes understandably. Did he make a couple of defensive errors, yes. Will the game hopefully bring him on? Well that was the point, so hopefully yes. While O'Dowda did well to get on the end of a cross in the opposition box, where did that chance come from? The RHS where nearly all of our good attacking play emanated from driven by guess who? Doherty and his interplay with Smallbone. I dont see Doherty not starting vs France so it's either at RWB instead of Coleman or at LWB instead of Mc Clean. That's the big decision for Kenny as I see it. Coleman vs Mc Clean, unless god forbid he plays Coleman as the RCB, which is also a possibility. I like O'Dowda as a player, but no way would I be starting him as a wing back vs France.
Edited by John Nice - 23 Mar 2023 at 11:29am |
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Whatever the views on who is the better player i find it inconceivable that Doherty would start over Coleman purely on current playing form and time. How can you logically pick a man that hasn't played for the guts of 2 months almost as opposed to someone who is now playing weekly in the PL. Also it isnt as if Doherty has pace either. Id say Coleman is prob faster if anything. If there were both playing weekly then its a toss up. Some decisions seem obvious to me and this is one. Playing him on the left then cancels out him crossing in from that side. I dont know seems illogical to me.
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John Nice
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I actually agree, I'd start Coleman, but I'd also start Doherty on the left. Doherty even on the RHS isnt much of a one for getting to the bye line and putting in crosses, he tends to cut inside and attack the box, so he can do that equally well if not better from the left, not that I expect our wing backs to be playing too advanced in any case. He will also be up against Coman who likes to cut inside which should suit Doherty. I think Matt is our best chance of limiting Coman's influence. Coman vs O'Dowda is just an accident waiting to happen. I'd be amazed if thats the call. I'll just add that in my view Doherty's best performance in recent times was the game in Faro where he played LWB. He defended really well that day against a good attacking team and himself and Connolly caused Portugal real problems down the LHS.
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Griezmann has played about 60 matches in a row for France. He’s hugely committed to the national team. I’d say he will get over it. Camavinga not predicted to play tomorrow night is mad. Must be one of the best 20 year olds in world football and a regular this season for Real. Deschamps must think he is too young still or doesn’t fancy him for his system.
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Camavinga is quality, yeah. But the Rabiot and Tchouaméni pivot served Deschamps well at The World Cup. Rabiot is having a good season for Juve. They're not short of options in midfield.
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John Nice
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I think he just sees it as a straight shoot out between Camavinga and Tchouameni with Tchouameni being mostly preferred (as is the case at Real when both are fit). Just shows the strength in depth they possess.
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I think the two will start also but it will be a 4-4-1-1 with Obafemi helping out the midfield .
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BrendanD88
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Camavinga has started ahead of Tchouameni for Madrid the past month or so! He’ll be sub tomorrow which unfortunately means he will likely play against us on Monday. Griezmann is vice captain and hasn’t fallen out with Deschamps, he will play both games.
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Tchouaméni has had niggling injuries and a bout of illness in 2023. Those and a bit of a World Cup hangover. Camavinga has played well in his absence. He fills in at LB a bit as well.
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BrendanD88
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Oh I know but he’s been back since the Atletico Madrid game over a month ago and Camavinga has been excellent in that time. They can definitely play together as they are not like for like, Rabiot nowhere near as good as either but in fairness to him he did have a decent World Cup.
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Don't say that to his mammy.
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John Nice
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Never upset the mammy, rumours this morning around LFC interest in Rabiot which would surprise me. In Rabiot's defence, while I agree both Tchouameni and Camavinga are excellent young players and potentially world class, neither of them could be considered attacking players and Rabiot was very good going forward in the WC. Barring injuries, I dont expect Camavinga and Tchouameni to start together for France against us.
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Doherty Coleman Collins Egan McClean Cullen Molumby Smallbone Ferguson Ogbene I'd go with this. Coleman at RCB backing up Doherty i think would help as he has the nous and experience we'll need to try to keep some sort of a handle on Mbappe. Smallbone showed something we really don't have last night, one of the few positives to take away. I'd have Ogbene over Obafemi, because i think with Ferguson and Obafemi, Ferguson will be the one coming deep trying to play Obafemi in, and i think we're better suited to Ogbene doing the hard work for Ferguson to be as big of a threat in the final third as possible. Obafemi would be a great option off the bench.
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