Ireland u19s

Seems that 2004 born lads arent eligible for the U19s, despite the fact that some may be only 18 when the first U19 qualifying group games kick off in November e.g. Oisin Gallagher. 

Pinginí wrote: There's an U19 Euros every year so the cut off for 2004 was the 2023 tournament that just took place. The problem is that there is an U21 Euros every 2 years in comparison, taking place in odd years. Lads born in even years miss out on that gap year for U19. They benefit by having the cut off age for the 21s always being an even year. So 2002 being the cutoff for the upcoming for the 2025 U21 tournament. They gain that underage year back by being eligbile for the 21s while pushing or being 23. So the 2002 and 2003 players underage international careers will end at the same time at the end of this campaign. There's no fair way to do it unless you have an U21 Euros every year too or make the U19s a two year cycle.

No he's born 2005

You Tell Me wrote: Yes there is a part of me that thinks we should take a different stance at the age groups when it comes to English born players given the way they are actively recruiting these days. There's an argument for leaving them to England at the age groups and then bringing the better ones in later at senior level when they inevitably don't make the England senior team. Would stop them being ruled ineligible when they switch away after agent pressure etc.

Just on this because I had the rules wrong and not sure if you've said similar before YTM about players needing to have their nationality sorted before turning 21.

Seems that players need to have their nationality sorted before making their first competitive cap at underage level. Rather than just having it sorted before turning 21.

So if Liam Delap hadn't got his citizenship sorted before his first competitive cap at underage for England he becomes ineligible for us after February 2024 if he plays for England's U21s.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/theathletic.com/4181245/2022/03/17/what-are-the-rules-on-footballers-switching-their-international-allegiance-and-how-have-they-changed/%3famp=1

What are the rules regarding under-21 players?
Players who feature in age-group sides, including under-21 level, are eligible to change allegiances.

They must, however, have already held the nationality of the country they wish to switch to at the time of playing their first match in an official competition for the country they want to move away from.

If they did not already hold that nationality, they are allowed to switch — but only if they were under the age of 21 when they featured for the country they want to switch from.

Additionally, players who played for a country, but not at senior level, who were under 21 at the time and have since lived in a different country for five years or more are eligible to switch.

J89 wrote: You Tell Me wrote: Yes there is a part of me that thinks we should take a different stance at the age groups when it comes to English born players given the way they are actively recruiting these days. There's an argument for leaving them to England at the age groups and then bringing the better ones in later at senior level when they inevitably don't make the England senior team. Would stop them being ruled ineligible when they switch away after agent pressure etc. Just on this because I had the rules wrong and not sure if you've said similar before YTM about players needing to have their nationality sorted before turning 21. Seems that players need to have their nationality sorted before making their first competitive cap at underage level. Rather than just having it sorted before turning 21. So if Liam Delap hadn't got his citizenship sorted before his first competitive cap at underage for England he becomes ineligible for us after February 2024 if he plays for England's U21s. https://www.google.com/amp/s/theathletic.com/4181245/2022/03/17/what-are-the-rules-on-footballers-switching-their-international-allegiance-and-how-have-they-changed/%3famp=1 What are the rules regarding under-21 players? Players who feature in age-group sides, including under-21 level, are eligible to change allegiances. They must, however, have already held the nationality of the country they wish to switch to at the time of playing their first match in an official competition for the country they want to move away from. If they did not already hold that nationality, they are allowed to switch — but only if they were under the age of 21 when they featured for the country they want to switch from. Additionally, players who played for a country, but not at senior level, who were under 21 at the time and have since lived in a different country for five years or more are eligible to switch.

J89 wrote: You Tell Me wrote: Yes there is a part of me that thinks we should take a different stance at the age groups when it comes to English born players given the way they are actively recruiting these days... Just on this because I had the rules wrong and not sure if you've said similar before YTM about players needing to have their nationality sorted before turning 21...

Yeah, this rule has caught me out aswell.

Wasnt the United lad Moorhouse called up previously, so a surprise maybe not to see him. First game of the window (friendly) is today vs Bosnia at 430 Irish time. Dont think its available to view anywhere???

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