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    Posted: 13 May 2020 at 10:31pm
Given the long road back from this and lack of certainty, it will be interesting to see (in so far as it is ever possible) the potential winners and losers from the impact of football being suspended. While it might be more difficult to see or speculate on whose career has benefitted, it is easier to see those negatively impacted. All players careers' are impacted but some more than others.

The obvious one is Glenn Whelan. He was on borrowed time already and is unlikely to feature again (although I am sure he won't retire). 
Another possible one is Will Smallbone. He had just started to get a run of games with Southampton. Might be difficult for him to pick up where he left off. 

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Originally posted by 50%lesssugar&salt 50%lesssugar&salt wrote:

Given the long road back from this and lack of certainty, it will be interesting to see (in so far as it is ever possible) the potential winners and losers from the impact of football being suspended. While it might be more difficult to see or speculate on whose career has benefitted, it is easier to see those negatively impacted. All players careers' are impacted but some more than others.

The obvious one is Glenn Whelan. He was on borrowed time already and is unlikely to feature again (although I am sure he won't retire). 
Another possible one is Will Smallbone. He had just started to get a run of games with Southampton. Might be difficult for him to pick up where he left off. 

A meteor could knock out most of the worlds population and we'd still have Glenn Whelan in midfield surrounded by 10 cockroaches
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I’d worry for those players out of contract end of June.

A lot of clubs will be cash strapped next season. 
Is Long out of contract this season? At 33 he will more than likely have to drop down to the championship.

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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by 50%lesssugar&salt 50%lesssugar&salt wrote:

Given the long road back from this and lack of certainty, it will be interesting to see (in so far as it is ever possible) the potential winners and losers from the impact of football being suspended. While it might be more difficult to see or speculate on whose career has benefitted, it is easier to see those negatively impacted. All players careers' are impacted but some more than others.

The obvious one is Glenn Whelan. He was on borrowed time already and is unlikely to feature again (although I am sure he won't retire). 
Another possible one is Will Smallbone. He had just started to get a run of games with Southampton. Might be difficult for him to pick up where he left off. 

A meteor could knock out most of the worlds population and we'd still have Glenn Whelan in midfield surrounded by 10 cockroaches

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I'm worried too about a millionaire's next move 
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Clark was playing really well this season under Bruce, although injured at the moment he will be moved on before Euro 21/ WC 22 if they get these new owners, maybe Championship so could still be in about the squad, I would have him in there anyway 
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Richard Keogh won't lose as much ground as first thought!
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Long is keen to stay at Southampton and the manager wants him to sign a new contract so that looks a cert unless the club is relegated, which is unlikely. Smallbone will be a first teamer I believe. Clark has been one of Newcastle's best players this season when fit, as acknowledged by Bruce, but if the new regime chooses to dispense with his services he is likely to join James McCarthy at Crystal Palace, who tried hard to sign him when he was temporarily out of the first team. If McCarthy does not want to play for Ireland again then it is likely that Whelan will stay in the squad due to the role he plays( though maybe just the squad rather than the team ). Richard Keogh is finished for Ireland obviously-his best chance of getting a new club when he recovers may well be down to Mick McCarthy, who has always liked him as a player and will likely be in charge of a club side by then.
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Scott Hogan had 7 in 8 games before football stopped hopefully he can keep up that form as he's a good finisher when his confidence is high. Brady and Hendrick were linked with Newcastle on frees i believe a few weeks ago but would have to imagine they'll look elsewhere if the takeover happens.
With Kenny coming in some of the senior players in the squad may need to start looking for a move, Duffy, Randolph, Coleman etc. Aren't guaranteed club starters anymore which can't be good for us
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Yeah Scotty Hogan was flying - for the first time in years. 

There is a lot of hype about Conor Noss (or Noß) coming off the bench both this weekend and last weekend in the Bundesliga. The problem is that he needs to be on it to be able to come off it. 
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The senior players like randolph, mcclean and Long are losing ground on the younger players and each may drop down a league next year. Whelan is playing for Fleetwood and that's too low a standard even for the current position ireland are in.

The big loss that I can see is that its halting the progress made by our emerging players like Connolly, molumby, knight, masterson this season.
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Surely that would even out across the board as all the careers and development of all up and coming players would be halted 
Unless they’re Belarusian 
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Originally posted by 50%lesssugar&salt 50%lesssugar&salt wrote:

Yeah Scotty Hogan was flying - for the first time in years. 

There is a lot of hype about Conor Noss (or Noß) coming off the bench both this weekend and last weekend in the Bundesliga. The problem is that he needs to be on it to be able to come off it. 

Yep, been following that and it's a bit silly.
Lad has never played in a senior game (bar pre-season, I believe) but with a flurry of games, I'd say he will make the bench in some..whether he sees the pitch is a different matter but fair play to him.
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Surely that would even out across the board as all the careers and development of all up and coming players would be halted 
Unless they’re Belarusian 

To a degree that makes sense. However this is the first time we have had a group of young players making a breakthrough at the same time in quite a while. I wouldn't be worried about the likes of Molumby or Knight who have a sizeable amount of games under their belts. The likes of Masterson and others who have only made a few appearances might find it tougher. It will also depend on how players react mentally to the situation. This will as you point out be applicable to all players but probably more crucial for younger players.
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Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

Long is keen to stay at Southampton and the manager wants him to sign a new contract so that looks a cert unless the club is relegated, which is unlikely. Smallbone will be a first teamer I believe. Clark has been one of Newcastle's best players this season when fit, as acknowledged by Bruce, but if the new regime chooses to dispense with his services he is likely to join James McCarthy at Crystal Palace, who tried hard to sign him when he was temporarily out of the first team. If McCarthy does not want to play for Ireland again then it is likely that Whelan will stay in the squad due to the role he plays( though maybe just the squad rather than the team ). Richard Keogh is finished for Ireland obviously-his best chance of getting a new club when he recovers may well be down to Mick McCarthy, who has always liked him as a player and will likely be in charge of a club side by then.

I'm not surprised Long is feeling the love - he has pocketed £3.12 million over three years for being one of the premiership's least-feared strikers. He'll be 34 in January. 

You're right about Clark,  surely Ireland's least appreciated player. Great EPL form until injury, dangerous at corners, passionate about Ireland. Yet he rarely figures in posters' selections. We deride Grealish and Rice for fecking off, but here's a guy who was captain of England's youth team choosing Ireland. 

Surely Kenny has been in touch with James McCarthy. If not, why not? A new manager, full of plans, ideas, optimism - knowing who's available is imperative. 
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the break may actually work in players favour. the older players have a lot of mileage on the clock and the break will do them no harm. we maybe only be talking 4 to 6 months so it isn't that significant. 

With young lads, we have a good few players with a lot of games under their belt but also many may develop been away from the club and the pressure associated with becoming a professional footballer. swings and roundabouts. 
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If the premier league do the same as the Bundesliga and change to five subs per game then it will probably mean some of our younger players will get more game time which can only be good. Having watched the Bundesliga the last few weeks there was also a number of younger players making their debuts in the starting 11 so can see the likes of Smallbone, Parrott, Connolly, Idah, Obafemi all benefiting from more game time.
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Another possible one is Will Smallbone. He had just started to get a run of games with Southampton. Might be difficult for him to pick up where he left off. 

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Sounds like his legs have gone

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