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WhackoJacko
Ronnie Whelan Joined: 02 Jul 2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 51 |
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All I wanna say is that no-one really cares about us |
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Shamon.
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horsebox
Robbie Keane Born n bred in darndale. Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 34896 |
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You call SF spoofers yet you will go and vote FF tomorrow. I don't even know where to begin.... |
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It was far across the sea,
When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
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greengiant
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The first two-syllable word I ever learned growing up was discretion." Dunphy on a his childhood
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horsebox
Robbie Keane Born n bred in darndale. Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 34896 |
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So just post spurious inaccurate tripe on a forum and hope that somebody will listen, but refuse to back up your point trapnoclue did the same in the ROI section until he got banned. |
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It was far across the sea,
When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
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horsebox
Robbie Keane Born n bred in darndale. Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 34896 |
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I am not saying you should. What I am saying is that you should not vote in the people who got us into this mess in the first place. Edited by horsebox - 07 Dec 2012 at 9:55am |
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It was far across the sea,
When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
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seanyshuffler
Jack Charlton PM snitch Joined: 09 Jun 2011 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9538 |
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Might be another few years yet, could only see five of their current T.D's who be credible ministers. Doherty, McDonald, Peadar Tobin, Caoimhin O Caolain and Aengus Ó Snodaigh. Sinn Fein seem to keep the rest of their T.D's off televison debates etc so say they wouldn't be up to the public side of a minister's job e.g television appearances etc.
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tony grealish
Liam Brady Joined: 23 Feb 2011 Status: Offline Points: 1260 |
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I'm no flag waver for SF, but voting for these c*nts after what they have done to the country would be both treacherous and mind bogglingly stupid. |
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''I've had a rough night and I hate the f**kin eagles, man!!''
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Shebber
Liam Brady Joined: 24 Aug 2011 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 1029 |
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FF left the country in such a mess that there was never going to be a popular government no matter who got in. I think it's ridiculous that people are venting their anger almost fully towards the government of today, when responsibility for all of these cuts and tax hikes still rests fully with Bertie Aherne, Brian cowen and Charlie McCreevey.
Don't really like any of them, but under this government, the ship is slowly being steadied. I also happen to think the sofftly softly catchy monkey approach to the EU and a potential deal is the correct one. When the eurozone as a whole gets out of the current crisis, we'll get a deal, in fact, the bank debt will be written off imo. One of the best things we can do is show how much different to Greece we are, be good little europeans, sort out the deficit, and come out of things stronger for it.
If we adopted the Greece approach, and showed huge unrest, we certainly wouldn't have any hope of attracting foreign direct investment. Showing maturity as a nation, meeting our targets, reducing the deficit, and being patient is the right approach. It's painful, but this all had to be done due to the ridiculous practices of the previous government, who made permanent spending arrangements based upon temporary funds (Stamp Duty). Those spending arrangements now need to be reigned back in, it hurts but has to be done.
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If you have 200 million priests, and 5% of them are paedophiles, that's still only 10 million paedophiles!
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RogerMilla
Moderator Group #TEAMJAVIER #ENGANCHE Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Location: Delaney Park Status: Offline Points: 34858 |
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havent got much respect for the current crowd but you make a decent case for them there shebber
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The first time the Devil made me do it. The second time I did it on my own.
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Cabra Hoop
Roy Keane Joined: 06 Feb 2012 Location: Royal County Status: Offline Points: 10847 |
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The events of recent days provides the best ever chance for Labour to become a serious player in irish politics. That may appear a ridiculous statement to make considering the budget.
But imagine the situation whereby the Labour party walk away from the coalition and spin the fact that they managed to keep the dole at its current rate and heap the blame on all the increases and cuts on FG saying they had to leave government because of lack of fairness in the budget. That policy would certainly placate the Labour grass roots and hit a chord with the left among FF and SF. It could a great chance to stuff the Blueshirts once and for all. To do this in 2013 would be a fitting tribute on the century of the lockout.
On a related topic has society changed all that much for the ordinary man between 2013 and 1913, it seems to me that the moneyed classed still rule the roost and the citizen is totally subserviant to his masters.
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" BFC always gives me a laugh........ "
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RogerMilla
Moderator Group #TEAMJAVIER #ENGANCHE Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Location: Delaney Park Status: Offline Points: 34858 |
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it changed massively cabra but it has now regressed, access to credit was something that no worker had in 1913 , it was plentiful over certain periods since especially during the celtic tiger, if it dries up altogether then you will see a massive fall in the standard of living. access to credit is more important than anything else apart from education and training in aiding upward mobility.
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The first time the Devil made me do it. The second time I did it on my own.
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fochie
Liam Brady Joined: 11 May 2012 Status: Offline Points: 2139 |
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People who would vote FF back in are as much to blame for the economic implosion and
austerity that we now find ourselves in.Its also fair to argue that the same people have also had their pockets lined in silk by the same political gangsters that have the country ruined. Jesus christ if you put your hand in a fire and got burned why in the hell would you put it in again in the hope it will be ok the second time round? As for people talking about Government Policies being the reason they would or would not vote for a certain party is kack. How many policies has this current government reneged on? The same amount as every other one is the answer, We need a huge shake down in government in this country but seen as we are a nation of moaners who never complain we will be stuck in the mud until we all take an interest in our countries Future. The "f**K them all " attitude is cutting your own nose off to spite your face.
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RogerMilla
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you have a point
the thing is FG had the same policies as FF during the boom , they were trying to outdo FF with giveaways etc. then everyone voted them in as they were the only alternative
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The first time the Devil made me do it. The second time I did it on my own.
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Pipkin
Liam Brady Joined: 07 May 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1975 |
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Things change. Michael Martin is a good leader. I know the FF candidate in my costituency will never have been a TD before so comparing them to those of years past is pointless. And anyway it is very inportant to have a strong opposition party. If only we had one now it might have kept the current government on their toes not having such a huge majority. |
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seanyshuffler
Jack Charlton PM snitch Joined: 09 Jun 2011 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9538 |
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If you vote them in don't moan if you don't get what you want. Think we need to strip the country down and start again. Bring in a government of technocrats and let them shape the country. |
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horsebox
Robbie Keane Born n bred in darndale. Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 34896 |
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They are white collar criminals who fall under an umbrella of criminality and corruption. If people vote these people back in then we get what we deserve. |
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It was far across the sea,
When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
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greengiant
Liam Brady Joined: 11 Oct 2011 Status: Offline Points: 1614 |
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Im absolutely disgusted that they failed cut to their wages,expenses will never truly be vouched,they shied away from the 3% USC on €100,000 + ,would that have anything to do with the fact that the decision makers would have been hit by this increase. Complete conflict of interests when Ministers are paid ridicolous salaries,hiding behind the same excuse about decreasing the incentive to work?! ,nonsense and pure greed. This was as they say a "red line issue"!,this should have been the first port of call in any fair budget.
These people are here to do a job for their country,this seems to have been forgotten in the last 20-30 years,not line their own pockets. They have taken no hit themselves,not even a symbolic one. Children,the disabled,mothers and low-middle income families were hit yet again and the only heckle that came on budget day was when the 10% deduction to the leaders allowance was declared. These people are completely out of kilter with the rest of the country. The gap between the wealthy and the poor is growing year on year and amazingly the government itself personifies this.
Sinn Fein who proclaim to be different say that their td's only take the average industrial wage,which would lead you to believe that the excess goes back into the system?,no it goes into a party fund. Hence the chinese menu style leaflet McGuiness sent out during the presidential election.
The way I see it sadly is that there is absolutely no point in voting with the options that are currently there. The system is broken,the party politics culture is counter productive,how do we change it?,we need a new party,people who are not in it for the money,people who put their country first. I know sounds extremist and whatever but to think Irish people died so that Irish people could run our country,fast forward 100 years and now the establishment which came from those sacrifices need to be paid some of the highest wages in the country. As crazy as it sounds if you had a party that manifested itself from YBIG,i think that at the very least it would have the most important element that all the parties are missing and thats putting your country first!
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The first two-syllable word I ever learned growing up was discretion." Dunphy on a his childhood
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RogerMilla
Moderator Group #TEAMJAVIER #ENGANCHE Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Location: Delaney Park Status: Offline Points: 34858 |
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sold , i'm in.
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The first time the Devil made me do it. The second time I did it on my own.
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