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Originally posted by kevincronin2000 kevincronin2000 wrote:

Often wondered would it be worth a shout for some of the bigger league of ireland clubs to sign a polish player from their league, not sure what kind of money some squad / fringe player from lech poznan or leigia Warsaw would command even if they could get someone in on loan.

LOI clubs have missed a trick here IMO. A partnership between Polish and Irish clubs should have been made years ago. Polish club gets to loan players out, not a massive distance from their homeland, plenty of Polish/ethnic food and in return the LOI club may benefit financially.

As for supporting the national team, as Simon said (excuse the pun) you need to target the kids
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Polish people have a strong identity & national pride so it would take quite a few generations I think. 
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Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

Originally posted by kevincronin2000 kevincronin2000 wrote:

Often wondered would it be worth a shout for some of the bigger league of ireland clubs to sign a polish player from their league, not sure what kind of money some squad / fringe player from lech poznan or leigia Warsaw would command even if they could get someone in on loan.
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A lot of so called Polish children are actually Irish. Born in Ireland, living and growing up here and going to school here, playing sports etc. Their parents home is Poland but for the kids home is Ireland.
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Originally posted by 085immersive 085immersive wrote:

A lot of so called Polish children are actually Irish. Born in Ireland, living and growing up here and going to school here, playing sports etc. Their parents home is Poland but for the kids home is Ireland.

Just like Kevin Kilbane and England.
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This thread is nearly 10 years old now and I was at the game in question. Super atmosphere that day all thanks to the poles. 

Be interesting to see what people think now. The majority of polish adults who moved here will never support us as their main team and rightly so. But I feel this community has done an excellent job integrating and their kids born here are growing up as Irish as the rest of us with no grudge on their shoulders towards this nation. And as a result this new generation of Irish will support the national team. Obviously many will support Poland as well as Ireland due to their parents being from there and that's good to see also. 

Anyone else have thoughts on this? Can't believe it's nearly 10 years since this and 8 since euro 2016.
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I’ve had this conversation on numerous occasions. Just cannot understand why young lads here with Polish descent haven’t come through at adult level. Klose and Podolski are great examples where it’s happened abroad.

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I don't have the figures but is it a case that a lot of those who came to Ireland during the Celtic Tiger returned to Poland during the recession? From the 2022 census, there's less than 100k living in Ireland.

In terms of other ethnicities, we have a really small proportion of population; less than 10% "other white", 4% Asian, less than 2% black. 

I'm sure those coaching at home who are more aware of those from other ethnic backgrounds and who is more likely to playing football or not.
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Originally posted by The Huntacha The Huntacha wrote:

I don't have the figures but is it a case that a lot of those who came to Ireland during the Celtic Tiger returned to Poland during the recession? From the 2022 census, there's less than 100k living in Ireland.

In terms of other ethnicities, we have a really small proportion of population; less than 10% "other white", 4% Asian, less than 2% black. 

I'm sure those coaching at home who are more aware of those from other ethnic backgrounds and who is more likely to playing football or not.


As you say, many Polish immigrant families in Ireland are probably transitory - they tend to go back after a few years. It's also only 20 years since Poland joined the EU. Poles who lived in Ireland before then led a fairly precarious existence - I knew a couple who got turned away by immigration on returning to Dublin after trips home - few would have been starting families back then, so there wouldn't be many Irish-born adult kids of Polish parents yet. That said, there have been surprisingly few Polish players in the underage teams in recent years. It could be the families don't stick around or maybe Polish emigrants don't take that much of an interest in playing football (it sounds strange but Polish names aren't exactly common in underage teams of other European countries either).
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Originally posted by wicklowrunner wicklowrunner wrote:

I’ve had this conversation on numerous occasions. Just cannot understand why young lads here with Polish descent haven’t come through at adult level. Klose and Podolski are great examples where it’s happened abroad.


Klose and Podolski are different cases though as both were Aussiedler, descended from German citizens who stayed in Poland after World War II and therefore had a right of return (Sepp Piontek, Denmark's manager in the 1986 World Cup was a Warsaw-born German too). Both Klose and Podolski also had fathers who were professional footballers (and mothers who were handball players) so they had a slight advantage from the start.


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I think its just the age profile, as pointed out Poland only joined the EU 20 years ago and many of the Polish who immigrated here were young and didn't have kids for a couple years.

All our players of Nigerian descent, their parents began coming to Ireland 25-30 years ago at this stage and most of the ones in the senior squad are only 20-23 years old now with a lot more emerging at younger age groups.

Give it a few years and there will be more Polish, Lithuanian, Latvian, Romanian names etc.. coming through, theres already a fair few at the various underage levels.
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It's the nature v nurture debate. Do ye really think they are better footballers because of genetics? 
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