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Thats what I thought but apparently it is difficult finding out who owns many of these empty properties, thats why I am trying to find out roughly the size of the team that is working on it
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All folios are with either the Land Registry or Registry of Deeds so not hard to find out who owns what. Not sure if you're looking to find out who owns a specific property or want to know if there is a team trying to identify the owners off all the 200k you mentioned.
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Cheers that answered a lot, do you know how big/many people are in charge of finding these properties? According to the articles linked here there are roughly 200000 empty properties, does anybody know what percentage of those empty properties have unknown landlords?
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colemanY2K
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Compulsory Purchase Order. Basically forcing the sale of the property to the state at market rates. |
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Thanks for the information, what is CPO? What do they do when they find out who owns it?
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colemanY2K
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the Housing Agency is tasked with it. they are working in cahoots with local authorities to CPO vacant properties. the minister has set a target of 2.5k properties to be flipped in the next 2.5 years. i know of a couple of vacant properties in my own town which have already been CPO'd this year.
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Things are far from perfect but there is no income tax/vat/college fee crisis at the moment, there is a housing crisis on an island riddled with empty property. I can understand if you are a property owner or potential property owner you would vote for ff/fg to maintain your property value but those people are dwindling. Surely there is a solution where everybody can win? regardless of what political party is in power. Ill ask again, does anybody know if there is a government body/office in charge of locating the unknown owners of these empty properties?
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TDs pay income tax and VAT so by the logic here they shouldn’t vote on those either. They also have kids in college sometimes so shouldn’t set fees etc etc. it’s a ridiculous line of reasoning.
A conflict of interest only exists if there is a close connection between the subject of a law and the TD which given general nature of legislation is exceptionally rare.
If a TD votes for something you don’t like and you think they are being self serving then vote for someone else at the next election. |
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By that logic a TD that is a renter is also a vested interest. Probably a more palatable and popular one to the public but the principle is the same nonetheless.
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Exactly! Thank you
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The grey area is when so many of them are landlords, should they be the ones voting on laws that govern renting. There's an argument that any TD's who have landlords have a conflict of interest and should be excluded from votes on rent caps etc.
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What difference does it make if a TD is a landlord or not? A lot of people rent for different reasons and that means there needs to be rental properties which means landlords. Not as if TD's are Canadian Pension funds with 1000's of properties. A lot of TD's might have had an investment property before going into politics. An investment property was a very popular pension option for self employed people and just a good investment for PAYE.
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Not sure how ya do it really, do ya force reclaim property after 5 years? [/QUOTE]
Since reading this comment I have spoken to a few people who fully agree about not knowing who owns many properties, is there a government body/office set up to try and find out who owns these empty buildings?
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All of Haughey's backhander money passed on. Great to see people still voting for the Haughey.
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Not sure how ya do it really, do ya force reclaim property after 5 years?
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Ah so it was but he was still a big beef farmer AFAIK
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Thank you, that was the general info I was looking for. I am from Dublin but I live in rural Ireland at the moment. The amount of empty property around the place is astonishing. Are people generally aware of this?
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