Holland v Ireland

Cabra Hoop wrote: Baldrick wrote: irishmufc wrote: t_rAndy wrote: You Tell Me wrote: The O'Shea wrote: Smallbone and Ebosele out injured, McClean joins the squad. A couple of cases of the cant-be-arseds there I'd say. Expect a few more over the course of the next week, there's a bad dose of it going around at the moment. Let me guess, it’s Kenny’s fault they can’t be arsed? I don't think it's a case of can't be arsed among any of the players but it certainly is Kenny's fault and the sooner that fookin jinx gets his marching orders the better.  The OTT childish reaction of fans is hilarious.  Murph is the same.  Sound like a bunch of 3 year olds and Kenny has stole your toys.  It’s football. Win some lose some.  He will move on.  He has done more good for Irish football than most. Was given the opportunity and it hasn’t worked out but it’s not a crime.  There is more hate on here for Kenny than there is for Delaney at times.   Talk of hate for SK is not widespread among his detractors, more huge frustration that we have gone backwards during his tenure which is exacerbated by having the opinion that he wasn't up to the job to start with and having to put up with the group think here who slavishly supported him.

Jesus we are 15/1 tomorrow. I don't ever.remember our odds being as long 

He's gone next week, it didn't work out. Get over it, he gave first caps to 24 players in his tenure, I'd bet that's un-matched in Europe throughout his time in charge. It wasn't all bad, the bad certainly outweighed the good but he tried to do something no other manager has and it was the breath of fresh air we all wanted. No other manager would have had success and that's not even up for debate, we're simply not good enough but hopefully these young lads can kick on now throughout the next few years. 

1-2 Ireland

TooOldForThis wrote: I must have missed the meeting that decreed that supporters must support the manager? Particularly when the manager is damaging the team. Supporters of the team habitually call for players to be dropped, so why not drop the manager.

Sham96 wrote: The Dutch are missing over half their team through injuries (and this is not a great Dutch team anyway) so the match should be close. A proper international manager would have had this Irish team playing for second place and still involved.

Sham96 wrote: The Dutch are missing over half their team through injuries (and this is not a great Dutch team anyway) so the match should be close. A proper international manager would have had this Irish team playing for second place and still involved.

You Tell Me wrote: TooOldForThis wrote: I must have missed the meeting that decreed that supporters must support the manager? Particularly when the manager is damaging the team. Supporters of the team habitually call for players to be dropped, so why not drop the manager.  It will be interesting to see if the same posters are still saying that if we go for a Chris Hughton type manager next and he sticks 10 men behind the ball against every team that isn't Gibraltar.

What is meant by "I'll support him"? If you genuinely think the incumbent is failing, and will continue to fail, he should have unwavering support? One nations league and one qualifying campaign to determine if its working, regardless of who the manager is, or what his football philosophy is.