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Anti-irish rag back in the day too , ive never ever bought it .
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Just watch Jimmy McGoverns Hillsborough again there shocking stuff alright, god bless them, just on a side note I remember being in the Canal End at various matches in the 80s and early 90s All Ireland Finals and Semi Finals and I just keep wondering How the jaysus did we come safe out of it?
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Originally posted by Neil Armstrong Neil Armstrong wrote:

Just watch Jimmy McGoverns Hillsborough again there shocking stuff alright, god bless them, just on a side note I remember being in the Canal End at various matches in the 80s and early 90s All Ireland Finals and Semi Finals and I just keep wondering How the jaysus did we come safe out of it?


Could you have run onto the pitch or was it a pen like at hillsborough??
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Originally posted by Andkend Andkend wrote:

Originally posted by Neil Armstrong Neil Armstrong wrote:

Just watch Jimmy McGoverns Hillsborough again there shocking stuff alright, god bless them, just on a side note I remember being in the Canal End at various matches in the 80s and early 90s All Ireland Finals and Semi Finals and I just keep wondering How the jaysus did we come safe out of it?


Could you have run onto the pitch or was it a pen like at hillsborough??



No, it was fenced and barbed wired and Hill16 for All Ireland final of '83 was one lucky escape for all on it that day
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The Blackrock Terrace in Cork is really dangerous these days as is the town end in Thurles, you think they would of learned from things like this.
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               So many things to reflect upon regarding hillsborough. Obviously those that died, were injured, or mentally scarred from the terrible events are uppermost.
             But it also brought about a massive cultural change in the game in England. The FA and government pushed it towards all seater stadia. The premier league was born shortly after, meaning the game was no longer the staple of the working classes. For me personally, the game changed forever that day. 
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Originally posted by packiesglove packiesglove wrote:

               So many things to reflect upon regarding hillsborough. Obviously those that died, were injured, or mentally scarred from the terrible events are uppermost.
             But it also brought about a massive cultural change in the game in England. The FA and government pushed it towards all seater stadia. The premier league was born shortly after, meaning the game was no longer the staple of the working classes. For me personally, the game changed forever that day. 


for better or worse?
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Originally posted by tonyjaa tonyjaa wrote:

Anti-irish rag back in the day too , ive never ever bought it .
 
 
Can't understand why anyone in Ireland would ever buy that fascist rag.
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Anti-irish rag back in the day too , ive never ever bought it .
its a real knuckedraggers rag alright
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great news that finally a bit of justice for the 96, surely there will have to be a new inquest now
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Delighted,At long last the truth comes out.A new inquest and criminal proceedings must follow.The campaign for Justice must continue- apologies aren't enough for the top to bottom,multi association/departmental cover up.
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Originally posted by GarageFlower GarageFlower wrote:

Delighted,At long last the truth comes out.A new inquest and criminal proceedings must follow.The campaign for Justice must continue- apologies aren't enough for the top to bottom,multi association/departmental cover up.
Exactly. I get the impression they're only sorry because they were caught. 
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The brits ways wait until everyone has retired before they reveal the truth. The police at the time were a disgrace, they were protected by the Thatcher government of the day.
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What do you expect from a country with a house of lords -
The image of the crown and the realm must appear strong at all times.

Mind you they are not the only nation that is capable of doing a cover up - happens all over the world if people lie down and let it happen.

Fair play to the families of the 96, who never gave up in their fight to make the truth known and to make the truth of the situation known, I hope they get the final justice and convictions they are looking for.
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Originally posted by Andkend Andkend wrote:

Originally posted by packiesglove packiesglove wrote:

               So many things to reflect upon regarding hillsborough. Obviously those that died, were injured, or mentally scarred from the terrible events are uppermost.
             But it also brought about a massive cultural change in the game in England. The FA and government pushed it towards all seater stadia. The premier league was born shortly after, meaning the game was no longer the staple of the working classes. For me personally, the game changed forever that day. 


for better or worse?

 worse, definitely. prices went up, and atmosphere has been lost at every ground in the country in the top 2 leagues, the only positive for me was the fences came down.
      I am not suggesting the  events at hillsborough were the reason for this, but it was used as an excuse for changes in football.
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To counter that, football is now a place you could bring the wife and kids if you had them!
I'd love nothing more than to bring my young fella (some day) to the games.
20 years ago maybe 30 I don't think football was suitable for anybody other than an able bodied man.
Thats a positive change I feel, your right about atmosphere issues though.
I know the kop still retains a Good atmosphere and dortmund is the same. Maybe clubs should look at incorporating a large home end stand like Liverpool and Dortmund have to generate atmosphere.
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