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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by SeanyL SeanyL wrote:

Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

if I did a survey of my mates I would say f**k all of them
have any interest in horse racing.  
I agree that perhaps the leading story is over the top, but I don't agree that it is blown out of proportion. 

And I don't believe that you need an interest in horse racing either. An enormous amount of tax payers money goes into it and I think therefor this story is in the public interest. I have no real time for it at all to be honest. 
The Government and Irish people get an absolutely fantastic return from the money they invest in horse racing each year, as the below Deloitte report shows.  
Had a quick scan through this, what's the return for government? The staff would likely be employed elsewhere so their taxes are aren't specific to the industry. What betting tax are they talking about? Is it tax on Paddy Power profits?

I'm always sceptical when an industry commissions a re report on itself, they can basically pay Deloitte to say what they want, and if they don't like it, they'll just not release it

If that is what you believe then that would apply to all jobs. 
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Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by SeanyL SeanyL wrote:

Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

if I did a survey of my mates I would say f**k all of them
have any interest in horse racing.  
I agree that perhaps the leading story is over the top, but I don't agree that it is blown out of proportion. 

And I don't believe that you need an interest in horse racing either. An enormous amount of tax payers money goes into it and I think therefor this story is in the public interest. I have no real time for it at all to be honest. 
The Government and Irish people get an absolutely fantastic return from the money they invest in horse racing each year, as the below Deloitte report shows.  
Had a quick scan through this, what's the return for government? The staff would likely be employed elsewhere so their taxes are aren't specific to the industry. What betting tax are they talking about? Is it tax on Paddy Power profits?

I'm always sceptical when an industry commissions a re report on itself, they can basically pay Deloitte to say what they want, and if they don't like it, they'll just not release it

If that is what you believe then that would apply to all jobs. 
That's kinda my point. If the government subsidised the income for pigeon racing industry then we'd have more people able to be professional pigeon racing trainers. 

If they subsidised the income for paper rounds we'd have more people doing paper rounds.
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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by SeanyL SeanyL wrote:

Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

if I did a survey of my mates I would say f**k all of them
have any interest in horse racing.  
I agree that perhaps the leading story is over the top, but I don't agree that it is blown out of proportion. 

And I don't believe that you need an interest in horse racing either. An enormous amount of tax payers money goes into it and I think therefor this story is in the public interest. I have no real time for it at all to be honest. 
The Government and Irish people get an absolutely fantastic return from the money they invest in horse racing each year, as the below Deloitte report shows.  
Had a quick scan through this, what's the return for government? The staff would likely be employed elsewhere so their taxes are aren't specific to the industry. What betting tax are they talking about? Is it tax on Paddy Power profits?

I'm always sceptical when an industry commissions a re report on itself, they can basically pay Deloitte to say what they want, and if they don't like it, they'll just not release it

If that is what you believe then that would apply to all jobs. 
That's kinda my point. If the government subsidised the income for pigeon racing industry then we'd have more people able to be professional pigeon racing trainers. 

If they subsidised the income for paper rounds we'd have more people doing paper rounds.

It not just people like trainers and people who work in yards. It's farriers, people who make the equipment, people who work on racecourses, people who work for the companies making the horse feed, vets, transport companies etc. 
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I see Panorama are doing a hatch job on racing tonight by the looks of it. Throwing Elliot's name into the mix to try and make it more sensational even though whatever happened would, most likely, have had nothing to do with him. 
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Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

I see Panorama are doing a hatch job on racing tonight by the looks of it. Throwing Elliot's name into the mix to try and make it more sensational even though whatever happened would, most likely, have had nothing to do with him. 

So there isn’t horsey heaven ? 
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Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

I see Panorama are doing a hatch job on racing tonight by the looks of it. Throwing Elliot's name into the mix to try and make it more sensational even though whatever happened would, most likely, have had nothing to do with him. 

So there isn’t horsey heaven ? 

There isn't any heaven!!!
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In terms of blame for the sport of horse racing itself I thought the documentary was tame enough. A lot of the horses shown were not thoroughbred racehorses at all you could tell by looking at them, and despite their attempts to blame Gordon Elliott and Gavin Cromwell for everything, surely the focus should be on the people operating these abattoirs?

Some sad scenes all the same with the horses in the slaughter houses 
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