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   Just a few thoughts from myself on the night of our last home game of  this campagne.
I was over at the Germany game at the weekend and i was so disappointed with the atmosphere. Admittely, it was hard to get too excited for that game given the fact we had nothing to play for, but it was pretty much the same for the Wales and Slovakia games back in March when we were still in contention. Dont even get me started on the mexican wave, what a f**king joke.
I watched the England - Russia game this evening and from a neutral point of view, i really enjoyed it. Obviously i was only watching it on TV but the atmosphere sounded phenomenal throughout the match and this no doubt unnerved England. You could see thier heads drop when they went a goal down.
Why cant the Irish fans create an atmophere like this? I remember when the papers used to describe the fans at Landsdowne Road as being 'the twelth man' and teams used to genuinely find playing in Dublin an intimdating experience. I had to make do with watching the games against Portugal and Holland in the 2002 WC qualifiers on TV but i could tell the crowd really made thier voices heard those days and this could only have encouraged our team.
Those days seemed a lifetime away tonight with all the empty seats and lack of noise.
Hopefully we'll have a new manager for the World Cup qualifiers and us Irish fans need to play our part and raise our voices to make Dublin a really difficult place for away teams to come to, just like it once was.

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stiofain Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Liam Brady Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Location: Brunei Darussalam Status: Offline Points: 2519	Topic: Atmosphere Posted: 17 Oct 2007 at 5:58pm
	Just a few thoughts from myself on the night of our last home game of this campagne. I was over at the Germany game at the weekend and i was so disappointed with the atmosphere. Admittely, it was hard to get too excited for that game given the fact we had nothing to play for, but it was pretty much the same for the Wales and Slovakia games back in March when we were still in contention. Dont even get me started on the mexican wave, what a f**king joke. I watched the England - Russia game this evening and from a neutral point of view, i really enjoyed it. Obviously i was only watching it on TV but the atmosphere sounded phenomenal throughout the match and this no doubt unnerved England. You could see thier heads drop when they went a goal down. Why cant the Irish fans create an atmophere like this? I remember when the papers used to describe the fans at Landsdowne Road as being 'the twelth man' and teams used to genuinely find playing in Dublin an intimdating experience. I had to make do with watching the games against Portugal and Holland in the 2002 WC qualifiers on TV but i could tell the crowd really made thier voices heard those days and this could only have encouraged our team. Those days seemed a lifetime away tonight with all the empty seats and lack of noise. Hopefully we'll have a new manager for the World Cup qualifiers and us Irish fans need to play our part and raise our voices to make Dublin a really difficult place for away teams to come to, just like it once was.
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billybob Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Jack Charlton Joined: 14 Oct 2007 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 7179	Posted: 17 Oct 2007 at 6:17pm
	When we have something to play for we are second to none!!! And Croke park hasn't helped.....every bandwagoner is on board.
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TheManInTheHat Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Ronnie Whelan Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Status: Offline Points: 27	Posted: 17 Oct 2007 at 6:20pm
	As someone posted on Dangerhere.com a while back, Irish people are not sports fans, they're event junkies. As others have said elsewhere here in the last few days, a lot of people on saturday were more concerned with the how the English meathead rugby players were getting on than what was taking place in front of them. They have the mentality that they are there to be entertained rather than actually getting behind the team and supporting them. The games in 2001 against Portugal and especially Holland, after Kelly was sent of, were the high-water marks for atmosphere at a home game. The game against the czechs at Lansdowne last year had a decent atmosphere considering the disaster of the cyprus game the previous saturday. Not sure what can be done to be honest. Sometimes I think you get the team you deserve.
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FREEWHEELER Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Robbie Keane sPICE UP YOUR LIFE Gwan MONROY Joined: 29 Mar 2007 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 24595	Posted: 17 Oct 2007 at 6:58pm
	Billybob's summed it up fairly well, Irish fans at their best when there's something to play for and that hasn't happened really in this campaign, though it seemed to me the atmosphere was a bit flat 2 years ago when the key WC games with France and the Swiss were played in Lansdowne. That said there was a bit of discontent between fans and players at that stage in the Kerr era. Very relevant point above though regarding event junkies. Edited by FREEWHEELER - 17 Oct 2007 at 6:58pm
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RogerMilla Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group #TEAMJAVIER #ENGANCHE Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Location: Delaney Park Status: Offline Points: 34858	Posted: 18 Oct 2007 at 1:31am
	the team create the atmosphere , not the fans
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The Count Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Paul McGrath Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 17177	Posted: 18 Oct 2007 at 4:13am
	Croke park is muck for atmosphere, as its a completely different crowd that go there.Lots of one-offs, freebies, rugby fans, normal fans, + lots and lots of ars*holes!There is no comparrisment to an away game crowd and the shower that go to croke park! HAve been at games all ov er the world and its the fans that create the atmosphere, whether the team is winning or losing (in fairness though it is hard to get exited or up for it for anything over the last few games!). As discussed before the only way to create this is to get like minded people in specific areas of the stadium who want to sing, chant, jump etc. (sure look at those muppets in the canal end who get the poxy wave going all the time, its because like minded people are in the same area!) Edited by The Count - 18 Oct 2007 at 4:17am


Cookie Monster Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Davey Langan Joined: 31 Aug 2007 Location: Anseo agus ann Status: Offline Points: 999	Posted: 18 Oct 2007 at 5:20pm
	Bang on lads. The amount of t**sers that go to these games in Croker just because its the in thing this year is sickening. I saw loads of lads there agaianst Germany last saturday night that came in Shirts and Jumpers with not a trace of a Jersey or anything green to be seen. The game wasnt goin to interfere with their saturday night, it was just a sideshow to their nights entertainment later on. I've been at 10 of the eleven games so far in this campaign and its been the worst one yet for both the football and the atmosphere, especially at home where the atmosphere was concerned. I reckon we should vote with our wallets and not buy the tickets for the Brazil and Italy friendlies. Hit the FAI in the only way that will make them take notice. fookin robbers and word breakers. I was that pissed off last night I didnt even go for a jar after the game and headed straight for the train
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Percy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Ray Houghton Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Location: Saint Pierre Status: Offline Points: 3050	Posted: 18 Oct 2007 at 5:23pm
	theres more atmosphere to be had on the bonnet of the starship enterprise than there is in croker
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FREEWHEELER Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Robbie Keane sPICE UP YOUR LIFE Gwan MONROY Joined: 29 Mar 2007 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 24595	Posted: 18 Oct 2007 at 5:41pm
	Agreed on Croker, it's a magnificent venue but we're way too far away from the pitch for an atmosphere to be created and the Soccer pitch is just lost on that huge Ga pitch. Let's hope the new Lansdowne has us right close to the pitch like a Celtic Park or other stadia similar.
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The_Yank Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Ray Houghton Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Location: Dundrum Status: Offline Points: 4090	Posted: 18 Oct 2007 at 6:28pm
	As a huge GAA fan I love Croker but agree the pitch is too large for the FAI... however, if the team was doing well and the crowd was behind them, I don't think there would be a problem at all. 80K strong green army can raise its voice in any venue.
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oohahhpaulmcgra Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Ronnie Whelan Joined: 27 Aug 2007 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 28	Posted: 19 Oct 2007 at 10:52am
	80k Green army im ont sure about that most are kids ,daytrippers and rugby fans and we all know of the leinster hush. the sooner we move back the better