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    Posted: 04 Oct 2023 at 10:06am
Their club teams have only ever won 2 European trophies.  Pathetic stuff.  For Europe's biggest country their league is crap.
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I think it's shocking that there's only one top flight team in a capital city the size of Paris.

And even they are a made up oil money team, who were only founded in the 1970s.
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Lens 2-1 Arsenal.
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The main reason these days is, PSG excepted, little money compared to the five other big leagues, and this has been the case for decades. Going further back, France was a bit of a late developer in organised football – the Coupe de France dates back to only 1917 and the league to 1931. Many of the clubs, including PSG, Lyon, Nantes, St-Etienne and Toulouse, are even younger than that. In the early days, football was less popular than other sports such as tennis, cycling, rugby (in the southwest) and motorsports and the national team, a run to the 1958 World Cup semi-finals aside, were a non-existent force until the Platini-Tigana-Giresse era of the 1980s.

One thing France is good at though is investment in sport at grass-roots level so this has resulted in the country becoming probably the best production lines of talent in the world, providing the bedrock for two of the semi-finalists in the last World Cup. French youth coaching is of a very high standard, even at the smallest clubs. If all French players stayed playing in the country, Ligue 1 probably would be comparable in quality to the rest of the big five but French clubs don’t have the cash to keep them. That said, French clubs do often punch above their weight, as was the case with Lens last night.

As for Paris, it has never really been a sporting city, though the suburbs certainly are these days, largely because of immigration.

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The main reason is French society is made up of people who like loads of sports.  Go to Italy and England and Germany football is king.  It’s not the same in France.   People in France love cycling, rugby, athletics, skiing and many more.  Paris also has a huge middle class that don’t really do football or rugby but do arts and culture etc.  

Club football is big in the northern cities such as Lille and Lens and also Marseille.  The north has been the traditional centre of  industrial working class in France and then Marseille was a working class port city with a huge influx of immigrants.  

I remember living in France in 1999 and the amount of people at the college who didn’t give a sh*t about the team winning the World Cup as football wasn’t there thing. They would say I like a tennis or I like basketball.  They live a huge variety of sports a a country. 


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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

The main reason is French society is made up of people who like loads of sports.  Go to Italy and England and Germany football is king.  It’s not the same in France.   People in France love cycling, rugby, athletics, skiing and many more.  Paris also has a huge middle class that don’t really do football or rugby but do arts and culture etc.  


Yeah, this is definitely true, though even in the rugby heartlands, for instance, football does draw bigger crowds than rugby, if there's a top-flight option available. In general there's a lot of competition from other sports and most are generously funded by the government. The French are also the kings of the casual sports fans. If you think Irish people are bandwaggoners, we're nothing compared to the French.
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Their national team are pretty good though. At least they have that.

Paris is a hotbed for football talents. A ridiculous amount of footballers have come from there in recent times.


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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

The main reason is French society is made up of people who like loads of sports.  Go to Italy and England and Germany football is king.  It’s not the same in France.   People in France love cycling, rugby, athletics, skiing and many more.  Paris also has a huge middle class that don’t really do football or rugby but do arts and culture etc.  

Club football is big in the northern cities such as Lille and Lens and also Marseille.  The north has been the traditional centre of  industrial working class in France and then Marseille was a working class port city with a huge influx of immigrants.  

I remember living in France in 1999 and the amount of people at the college who didn’t give a sh*t about the team winning the World Cup as football wasn’t there thing. They would say I like a tennis or I like basketball.  They live a huge variety of sports a a country. 

But I thought we were the only country in the world who lose potential young players to other sports…
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