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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Thats bizarre, why would a runner up face another runner up?

6 groups, 6 winners, 16 qualifiers - 4 winners play 4 3rd place qualifiers leaving 2 group winners v 2 runner ups and 4 remaining runner ups to play each other.

Or in simply terms UEFA changed the format to 24 teams and totally fecked up the format
I think it's the same format that FIFA used for the 24-team world cups (86, 90 & 94) before they saw sense and increased it to 32 teams which made it more straight forward. 
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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Thats bizarre, why would a runner up face another runner up?

6 groups, 6 winners, 16 qualifiers - 4 winners play 4 3rd place qualifiers leaving 2 group winners v 2 runner ups and 4 remaining runner ups to play each other.

Or in simply terms UEFA changed the format to 24 teams and totally fecked up the format
I agree it should be a 16 team tournament - down side is with all the tv money - particularly club football - going to 10-20 countries,  25-30 counties will forever be excluded.
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Originally posted by ConorMac77 ConorMac77 wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Thats bizarre, why would a runner up face another runner up?

6 groups, 6 winners, 16 qualifiers - 4 winners play 4 3rd place qualifiers leaving 2 group winners v 2 runner ups and 4 remaining runner ups to play each other.

Or in simply terms UEFA changed the format to 24 teams and totally fecked up the format
I think it's the same format that FIFA used for the 24-team world cups (86, 90 & 94) before they saw sense and increased it to 32 teams which made it more straight forward. 

Yep cue 2026 were it's going to be a sh*t show
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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by ConorMac77 ConorMac77 wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Thats bizarre, why would a runner up face another runner up?

6 groups, 6 winners, 16 qualifiers - 4 winners play 4 3rd place qualifiers leaving 2 group winners v 2 runner ups and 4 remaining runner ups to play each other.

Or in simply terms UEFA changed the format to 24 teams and totally fecked up the format
I think it's the same format that FIFA used for the 24-team world cups (86, 90 & 94) before they saw sense and increased it to 32 teams which made it more straight forward. 

Yep cue 2026 were it's going to be a sh*t show
Exactly - it's perfect as it is. What are they talking about, 3-team groups? Another West Germany v Austria style carve-up anyone? Disapprove


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Originally posted by ConorMac77 ConorMac77 wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by ConorMac77 ConorMac77 wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Thats bizarre, why would a runner up face another runner up?

6 groups, 6 winners, 16 qualifiers - 4 winners play 4 3rd place qualifiers leaving 2 group winners v 2 runner ups and 4 remaining runner ups to play each other.

Or in simply terms UEFA changed the format to 24 teams and totally fecked up the format
I think it's the same format that FIFA used for the 24-team world cups (86, 90 & 94) before they saw sense and increased it to 32 teams which made it more straight forward. 

Yep cue 2026 were it's going to be a sh*t show
Exactly - it's perfect as it is. What are they talking about, 3-team groups? Another West Germany v Austria style carve-up anyone? Disapprove

Yeah 3 team groups with two going through, as you say opens up the situation for a West Germany-Austria situation ,though I think Confederations will be separated so you won't have two European teams in the same group but still you might get a scenario were let's say

Germany beat Japan in their opening game 3-0 and Japan then play Nigeria and it finishes 2-2. Nigeria then know anything less then a 4 goal defeat and we're through. Germans would know as well yeah we only need a point here to go through top of the group thanks to that result.



 
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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Thats bizarre, why would a runner up face another runner up?

6 groups, 6 winners, 16 qualifiers - 4 winners play 4 3rd place qualifiers leaving 2 group winners v 2 runner ups and 4 remaining runner ups to play each other.

Or in simply terms UEFA changed the format to 24 teams and totally fecked up the format

It will be 32 teams soon which is better than 24 IMO.
I don’t like having 36 games and only 8 teams going home after the group stage.
It should be 48 games and 16 teams going home. 

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It should be a 48 team Euros and a 96 team World Cup.
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I think 3 team groups could work if a reward system is used.

The better your seeding the more rest days you have in the tournament. 

And also, if you win your group you are given a bye to a later round of the competition, while 2nd and 3rd placed teams have a to take part in a special play-off to decide who gets to stay in the tournament.


a small example with just 2 groups:


GROUP 1

Italy are top seeds and therefore play first and last matches.


Results:

Italy.................1-0 Switzerland
Switzerland......2-2 Turkey
Turkey..............0-2 Italy
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Final Table:

1. Italy......................6 points
2. Switzerland..........1 point
3. Turkey..................1 point


GROUP 2

Belgium are top seeds and therefore play first and last matches.

Results:

Belgium...........2-0 Russia
Russia.............0-1 Denmark
Denmark.........1-2 Belgium
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Final Table:

1. Belgium................6 points
2. Denmark..............3 points
3. Russia..................0 points


As group winners, both Italy and Belgium advance to the 2nd Round.


While, in a Special Play-Off Round to determine who gets to also advance to the 2nd Round, it's: 

Switzerland v Russia 

and 

Denmark v Turkey


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Spain refuses to recognise Kosovo due to fears over Catalan and Basque seperatism, so Spanish television has deliberately put them as 'kos', deliberately in lower case, and the commentary is referring to them as the Kosovo Federation Team. That's incredibly petty.
We should start doing the same for the North. 
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Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Spain refuses to recognise Kosovo due to fears over Catalan and Basque seperatism, so Spanish television has deliberately put them as 'kos', deliberately in lower case, and the commentary is referring to them as the Kosovo Federation Team. That's incredibly petty.
We should start doing the same for the North.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9395669/Official-FIFA-website-makes-bizarre-inclusion-Irish-Free-State-Northern-Irelands-group.html

(Blame FIFA, not me! LOL)


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Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Spain refuses to recognise Kosovo due to fears over Catalan and Basque seperatism, so Spanish television has deliberately put them as 'kos', deliberately in lower case, and the commentary is referring to them as the Kosovo Federation Team. That's incredibly petty.
We should start doing the same for the North.



(Blame FIFA, not me! LOL)

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That’s the highest we are going to be in a table for a while anyway LOL
Just because it's tradition does not make it right
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Does anyone know why Qatar played a world cup qualifier today? Are they not automatic as hosts?
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Does anyone know why Qatar played a world cup qualifier today? Are they not automatic as hosts?
To get game  time. Same reason they’re in our group for the qualifiers.
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Originally posted by ripbomb ripbomb wrote:

Does anyone know why Qatar played a world cup qualifier today? Are they not automatic as hosts?


Asian qualifiers double as qualifiers for the Asian Championships as far as I know
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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by ripbomb ripbomb wrote:

Does anyone know why Qatar played a world cup qualifier today? Are they not automatic as hosts?


Asian qualifiers double as qualifiers for the Asian Championships as far as I know
Or maybe thats why LOL
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