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Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Norwich were bit of an anomaly.

They beat Man City, drew with Spurs and Arsenal, got players heading to Bayern in the summer - Hardly a bunch of dosser cannon fodder.

But at the same time they finished just 6 points shy of the lowest pts total

It's a bit hard to decipher what went wrong there. 
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

The best PL team ever to be bottom of the table I heard some pundit call them midway through the season 

Yeah don’t believe Gareth Crooks.
He also put Harry Maguire in his team of the season.

They were good for the first 5 games of the season.
Beat Man City and Newcastle. Ran Chelsea very close only losing 2-3. They got up to 12th and Pukki had 6 goals.

But after that Man City result they lost 2-0 to Burnley and Palace.
Then Villa beat them 5-1 at home. They went into the relegation places and never recovered. Pukki also stopped scoring.

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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Norwich were bit of an anomaly.

They beat Man City, drew with Spurs and Arsenal, got players heading to Bayern in the summer - Hardly a bunch of dosser cannon fodder.

But at the same time they finished just 6 points shy of the lowest pts total

It's a bit hard to decipher what went wrong there. 
Who's going to Bayern?

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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

The best PL team ever to be bottom of the table I heard some pundit call them midway through the season 

One of the worst I've seen. Just because the best teams are succeeding by playing attacking football nowadays does not mean that Norwich deserve praise. The most tactically naive team I've seen in the PL in my memory, with some exciting individual players.


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Norwich weren't a good side, and shouting "chaaarrrrggggeeee" doesn't make them one. It leaves them exposed, and they suffered several big defeats, and they were one of the teams that really made up the numbers after lockdown ended. The fact that they could hardly score, let alone win, speaks for itself.

But Norwich weren't the only one. Brighton are treading water, and are really surviving by the skin of their teeth, and its been the same since they were promoted. I think next season will be potentially be their relegation year. WHU were better on this side of the lockdown, but that's only a snapshot, and when they were bad, they were really bad this year. Aston Villa stayed up by the skin of their teeth, and needed only 35 points to survive. Thats a fairly poor total. It will also be interesting to see if post-lockdown Palace are the same. They were really bad by the end.

I think at the lower end of the PL, this year, the standard was awful.
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Watford stuffed Liverpool, the first team to beat Liverpool in the league all season

It's hard to know what went wrong there given that that victory made them de facto European champions, I can't understand why they weren't challenging for the league title at least


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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Norwich weren't a good side, and shouting "chaaarrrrggggeeee" doesn't make them one. It leaves them exposed, and they suffered several big defeats, and they were one of the teams that really made up the numbers after lockdown ended. The fact that they could hardly score, let alone win, speaks for itself.

But Norwich weren't the only one. Brighton are treading water, and are really surviving by the skin of their teeth, and its been the same since they were promoted. I think next season will be potentially be their relegation year. WHU were better on this side of the lockdown, but that's only a snapshot, and when they were bad, they were really bad this year. Aston Villa stayed up by the skin of their teeth, and needed only 35 points to survive. Thats a fairly poor total. It will also be interesting to see if post-lockdown Palace are the same. They were really bad by the end.

I think at the lower end of the PL, this year, the standard was awful.
35 would have kept you up in each of past 4 seasons.
34 would have kept you up in 2 of those.

Not sure it tells you much tho, just means the top teams have been running away with it. For example the time before that when 38 points were required, Leicester won the title, which you could hardly say was a vintage year for Premier League.

The points to get into Top 4 has reduced in the past 4 seasons, probably means there's a better battle for Top 4 rather than a Top 4 running away with it. I think you can make a points argument for any season is better than another
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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

35 would have kept you up in each of past 4 seasons.
34 would have kept you up in 2 of those.

Not sure it tells you much tho, just means the top teams have been running away with it. For example the time before that when 38 points were required, Leicester won the title, which you could hardly say was a vintage year for Premier League.

The points to get into Top 4 has reduced in the past 4 seasons, probably means there's a better battle for Top 4 rather than a Top 4 running away with it. I think you can make a points argument for any season is better than another

Fair points.

I often think that the 40 point metric has been so often quoted that it becomes a assumption, regardless of how often less than 40 points is necessary in order to survive.
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Jack Grealish nominated for young player of the year 
He’s 24 ffs
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Jack Grealish nominated for young player of the year 
He’s 24 ffs

Raheem Sterling won it last season sure?
"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"

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Fair enough, thought Sterling was 23 last season but turns out he was 24

Should be for under 23s, the age seems to have crept up in recent years 
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I'd actually like to see it being exclusive to under 21's, many under 23's are established internationals with anything upto 3 or 4 years experience at that level behind them which imo makes it pretty unfair.

24/25 is an absolute joke mind.
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Wouldn't disagree 
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