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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Roberto Baggio Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 May 2021 at 10:58pm
Not fit for purpose in its current format 

They’re making a shambles of it week on week 
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I agree with this from Gary Neville. I was thinking it earlier that they've used VAR well in this tournament so far, just like they did in the World Cup in 2018 when it was relatively new. 


The Premier Leagues use of VAR has made me doubt it. Watching this tournament makes me realise we’ve overcomplicated it , mis-used it and thought we knew better than tournaments and countries that had used it before us . Used correctly It can work and not intrude on the game !
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Are they deliberately not using it as much or what? I thought Mbappe should have had a peno tonight. Prior to this tournament they gave a peno for sneezing. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Denis Irwin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jun 2021 at 11:04pm
Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

I agree with this from Gary Neville. I was thinking it earlier that they've used VAR well in this tournament so far, just like they did in the World Cup in 2018 when it was relatively new. 


The Premier Leagues use of VAR has made me doubt it. Watching this tournament makes me realise we’ve overcomplicated it , mis-used it and thought we knew better than tournaments and countries that had used it before us . Used correctly It can work and not intrude on the game !


No f**king sh*t Gary. 


Have said all along that the English were making an arse out of it
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

I agree with this from Gary Neville. I was thinking it earlier that they've used VAR well in this tournament so far, just like they did in the World Cup in 2018 when it was relatively new. 


The Premier Leagues use of VAR has made me doubt it. Watching this tournament makes me realise we’ve overcomplicated it , mis-used it and thought we knew better than tournaments and countries that had used it before us . Used correctly It can work and not intrude on the game !

I was surprised at how bad it had been implemented in the PL. From what I remember of that world cup, the ref would go to the monitor to judge for themselves. It took nearly a year for that to happen in England. 

A classic case of the lack of accountability that officials in England face and a refusal to accept that they might be doing things wrong.
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Are they deliberately not using it as much or what? I thought Mbappe should have had a peno tonight. Prior to this tournament they gave a peno for sneezing. 
I like that they don't show the stupid lines, seems to bring about a much faster decision.
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Euro VAR is top notch. Hopefully the PL can learn from it and speed it up next season.
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Why did they use a green thicker line last week for the offside replays but it’s back to the blue and red thinner lines this week?
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Why did they use a green thicker line last week for the offside replays but it’s back to the blue and red thinner lines this week?

Because Richard Masters needs all decisions going the way of his beloved big 6 
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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Why did they use a green thicker line last week for the offside replays but it’s back to the blue and red thinner lines this week?

Because Richard Masters needs all decisions going the way of his beloved big 6 
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I've always wondered if the VAR officials in Stockley Park watch and listen to the match on Sky Sports or BT, whichever is screening it in the UK. 
As 9 times out of 10 they go with whatever Neville or Carragher think of the contentious decision


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Watford goal disallowed

Milner getting away with a second yellow somehow

Clear and obvious errors
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Watford goal disallowed

Milner getting away with a second yellow somehow

Clear and obvious errors

Watford goal correctly disallowed. 

The free kick was given against Henderson. The issuing or not of second yellow cards is not a VAR matter. But if the ref gave it, the game itself as a spectacle would have been ruined. 

After 70 league games, this thread would usually be very active. The fact it's not, shows either the refereeing is better or VAR has improved. 
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Nonsense 
The Leeds one is either a penalty to Watford or a goal
The Leeds defender pulls the Watford players shirt and then pulls him round the neck before the Watford player has a slight pull back.  

You’re assuming the foul was against Henderson, where’d you hear this from? Ah so it might ruin a game as a spectacle so we won’t issue a second yellow in any further games then. Let’s change the rules. 


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It's the ref's decision to issue a second yellow to a player or not. The VAR has absolutely no power in the decision, so it's factually wrong to say that VAR should do something about it. Only in the case of a straight red card (or mistaken identity) can a VAR intervene. In this case it was neither so that deals with that.

I believe the ref on the pitch gave the foul for the push by Henderson, who made the initial challenge. It wasn't a yellow card offence, so therefore it wasn't given.

VAR cannot award a goal at Leeds v Watford, as the whistle went before the ball was over the line. So that's also not a VAR issue. 


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