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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Wolves are signing players like Nevas and Costa because they know if they don't get promoted or if they're under pressure to sell with FFP that buyers will be easily found for both. 

Makes perfect sense when you look at it that way.

It's not as if they're throwing £15million at Everton for Oumar Niasse. 
FFP is only lip service, ask QPR. If Wolves break the rules they will get a fine of about half a Neves, I think QPR's was around 8 million. It seems a lot, but by the actual ruling should have been 50 million and , if they want to do it properly, points deductions. Like the fit and proper test for owners, it would be a great idea if applied properly.

QPR were handed a lenient punishment as they were promoted that season, therefore the FFP rules became void for them.
Notts Forest however, didn't get promoted and were handed a transfer ban
FFP had nothing about promotion in the rules, the rules cannot change based on on-field performance, that would render them completely pointless and ensure that Championship football would become a real-life version of 'Go For Broke'; spend everything you have to get up and once you get up it is forgotten about.
They were let off after discussions which saw Fernandes and other shareholders write off a small fortune in loans and the EFL accepted that, which also went against the purpose of FFP.
Forest's situation was different. They were hit with a transfer embargo as they had not sent in audited accounts to the EFL in time, meaning the EFL did not know the lay of the land at the club and therefore stopped them spending money until they did.

That's what the Championship is though, in a nutshell.

QPR argued they cannot be punished by the Football League, because they're no longer part of the Football League, does kinda make sense as Football League rules cannot apply to Premier League clubs, and from then on it's set off a spiral of mad spending Championship clubs with the same mindset "If we're not associated with the EFL then they can't touch us"

Newcastle - £80 million
Brighton - £55 million over 2 seasons
Villa - £70 million
Sheff Wednesday were investigated but escaped narrowly
Wolves are the new boys to the join the mad rush to the Premier League club.

If you think that isn't true - Then ask yourself, why aren't QPR mad spending now like they did back then?


It might be it in a nutshell, but the point of any FFP rule is to prevent that.
QPR's case had nothing to do with them being promoted or not, the case and argument were clear; the club broke the rules whilst playing in the EFL. The EFL can prevent a team being promoted in that scenario anyway, again as is stipulated in FFP rules.
The reason QPR got off was QPR won the discussion and the EFL caved in and accepted that. Fernandes et al wrote off 60 or 70 million, QPR showed they had cut expenditure and, if I remember correctly, around the same time got the sweetener of nearly 10 million from Raheem Sterling joining Liverpool.Their books looked better and the EFL accepted that and cut the fine from 50 million to 8 million. Sterling paid the fine, essentially.

The reason QPR aren't spending now like then is quite clear and obvious; they aren't in the EPL and the owners aren't complete idiots with bottomless bank accounts. The reason they broke the rules was bad financial planning in that they never budgeted for relegation. They had players on absolutely crazy wages with no clauses for relegation. Again, this was all used by Fernandes at the negotiating table, it is believed he actually used the term 'not budgeting for relegation',but it shouldn't have been negotiable at all. If the rules are there, in black and white, they should be kept.

The other clubs, who may or may not have broken them, would only enhance my original point that FFP is merely paying lip service to how the game should be regulated and not actually regulating it properly.


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http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/aug/18/qpr-fine-financial-fair-play-8m
Edit; I should say it could still rise to 58 million, the case is still open, but that is extremely unlikely.


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