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Originally posted by RogerMilla RogerMilla wrote:

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Dunphy's just said the he doesn't think the management team knew about Hoolahan 3 years ago despite the fact that Trap capped him against Columbia 5 years ago.  It actually beggars belief.




Yep, and he also said Trap's only been picking him because of 'pressure from media etc.' Like Trap gives a f**k about the media LOL


It was the meeting between Trap and his boss that meant Hoolahan was called in in the 1st place following the Board meeting that decided to keep him. No coincidence he went to Norwich 2 days later (probably for the 1st time) and named in the squad a week or two later for Greece. And no doubt his boss was influenced by the media; so Dunphy isn't too far wrong on that point!


Agree fully , trap is massively influenced by the media, if it wasn't for the media banging on to him at every game , hoolahan would be nowhere near the squad, Sammon would be starting every game and McCarthy would probably have fcuked off to Scotland.

Trap doesn't watch rte or read our papers , he isn't in the pub talking to fans , he went to feck all games before he got bollocked by the fai , his only influences are the media or delaney, that's it

LOL He brought Paul Green to the Euros, never panders to the whim of the latest great white hope and starts Sammon, but yeah, he is 'massively' influenced by the media. Every manager is in some way influenced by external pressure from media, fans etc. Trap, like Jack is quite headstrong, and pays little if any attention to their suggestions. 
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Originally posted by Ireland4ever Ireland4ever wrote:

Originally posted by RogerMilla RogerMilla wrote:

Originally posted by Kerrzy Kerrzy wrote:

Originally posted by Fitz Fitz wrote:

Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:



Dunphy's just said the he doesn't think the management team knew about Hoolahan 3 years ago despite the fact that Trap capped him against Columbia 5 years ago.  It actually beggars belief.




Yep, and he also said Trap's only been picking him because of 'pressure from media etc.' Like Trap gives a f**k about the media LOL


It was the meeting between Trap and his boss that meant Hoolahan was called in in the 1st place following the Board meeting that decided to keep him. No coincidence he went to Norwich 2 days later (probably for the 1st time) and named in the squad a week or two later for Greece. And no doubt his boss was influenced by the media; so Dunphy isn't too far wrong on that point!


Agree fully , trap is massively influenced by the media, if it wasn't for the media banging on to him at every game , hoolahan would be nowhere near the squad, Sammon would be starting every game and McCarthy would probably have fcuked off to Scotland.

Trap doesn't watch rte or read our papers , he isn't in the pub talking to fans , he went to feck all games before he got bollocked by the fai , his only influences are the media or delaney, that's it

LOL He brought Paul Green to the Euros, never panders to the whim of the latest great white hope and starts Sammon, but yeah, he is 'massively' influenced by the media. Every manager is in some way influenced by external pressure from media, fans etc. Trap, like Jack is quite headstrong, and pays little if any attention to their suggestions.

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Totally agree he played Mccarthy and Hoolahan to rescue his rope as well, he didnt rate irish players at all, his tenure is a retirement fee for him, anyway he has done a few good thing to the cause, like respect the shirt, mentality, tenacity something that the irish lacked after jack Charlton left, the thing of believe in yourselves and your capacity and talent.  If you believe everything is a bit nearer
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Originally posted by RogerMilla RogerMilla wrote:

Originally posted by Kerrzy Kerrzy wrote:

Originally posted by Fitz Fitz wrote:

Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:



Dunphy's just said the he doesn't think the management team knew about Hoolahan 3 years ago despite the fact that Trap capped him against Columbia 5 years ago.  It actually beggars belief.




Yep, and he also said Trap's only been picking him because of 'pressure from media etc.' Like Trap gives a f**k about the media LOL


It was the meeting between Trap and his boss that meant Hoolahan was called in in the 1st place following the Board meeting that decided to keep him. No coincidence he went to Norwich 2 days later (probably for the 1st time) and named in the squad a week or two later for Greece. And no doubt his boss was influenced by the media; so Dunphy isn't too far wrong on that point!


Agree fully , trap is massively influenced by the media, if it wasn't for the media banging on to him at every game , hoolahan would be nowhere near the squad, Sammon would be starting every game and McCarthy would probably have fcuked off to Scotland.

Trap doesn't watch rte or read our papers , he isn't in the pub talking to fans , he went to feck all games before he got bollocked by the fai , his only influences are the media or delaney, that's it


Bit of a contradiction to say that Trap's influenced by the media if he doesn't watch RTE or read the papers. You really think he's more influenced by the questions at press conferences seeing as how you've said he doesn't read the finished articles articles than he is by the team of scouts such as Mick Martin and Frank Stapleton that report on players to him??

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Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by RogerMilla RogerMilla wrote:

Originally posted by Kerrzy Kerrzy wrote:

Originally posted by Fitz Fitz wrote:

Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:



Dunphy's just said the he doesn't think the management team knew about Hoolahan 3 years ago despite the fact that Trap capped him against Columbia 5 years ago.  It actually beggars belief.




Yep, and he also said Trap's only been picking him because of 'pressure from media etc.' Like Trap gives a f**k about the media LOL


It was the meeting between Trap and his boss that meant Hoolahan was called in in the 1st place following the Board meeting that decided to keep him. No coincidence he went to Norwich 2 days later (probably for the 1st time) and named in the squad a week or two later for Greece. And no doubt his boss was influenced by the media; so Dunphy isn't too far wrong on that point!


Agree fully , trap is massively influenced by the media, if it wasn't for the media banging on to him at every game , hoolahan would be nowhere near the squad, Sammon would be starting every game and McCarthy would probably have fcuked off to Scotland.

Trap doesn't watch rte or read our papers , he isn't in the pub talking to fans , he went to feck all games before he got bollocked by the fai , his only influences are the media or delaney, that's it


Bit of a contradiction to say that Trap's influenced by the media if he doesn't watch RTE or read the papers. You really think he's more influenced by the questions at press conferences seeing as how you've said he doesn't read the finished articles articles than he is by the team of scouts such as Mick Martin and Frank Stapleton that report on players to him??


Yes I believe that he lives in a bubble and press conferences questions are one of the few things that breach that bubble.
You can see it by how he loses the head with the press over players and tactics.
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Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by RogerMilla RogerMilla wrote:

Originally posted by Kerrzy Kerrzy wrote:

Originally posted by Fitz Fitz wrote:

Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:



Dunphy's just said the he doesn't think the management team knew about Hoolahan 3 years ago despite the fact that Trap capped him against Columbia 5 years ago.  It actually beggars belief.




Yep, and he also said Trap's only been picking him because of 'pressure from media etc.' Like Trap gives a f**k about the media LOL


It was the meeting between Trap and his boss that meant Hoolahan was called in in the 1st place following the Board meeting that decided to keep him. No coincidence he went to Norwich 2 days later (probably for the 1st time) and named in the squad a week or two later for Greece. And no doubt his boss was influenced by the media; so Dunphy isn't too far wrong on that point!


Agree fully , trap is massively influenced by the media, if it wasn't for the media banging on to him at every game , hoolahan would be nowhere near the squad, Sammon would be starting every game and McCarthy would probably have fcuked off to Scotland.

Trap doesn't watch rte or read our papers , he isn't in the pub talking to fans , he went to feck all games before he got bollocked by the fai , his only influences are the media or delaney, that's it


Bit of a contradiction to say that Trap's influenced by the media if he doesn't watch RTE or read the papers. You really think he's more influenced by the questions at press conferences seeing as how you've said he doesn't read the finished articles articles than he is by the team of scouts such as Mick Martin and Frank Stapleton that report on players to him??


TBH ive never been convinced he's ever been influenced by Tardelli or the aforementioned. Judging by many of Tardelli's media briefings he knows little of what Trap is thinking, dont mind have an influence on selecting the squad. These were the men that were going week in week out to games in the 6 months between Estonia and Euros squad announcement and they came up with 1 new face?!

Also I4E; why do you think Trap began going to matches 2 days after Delaney's meeting? Called Hoolahan up? Reached out to Gibson? Off the top of my head thats what happened in the immediate aftermath which would be the case in years gone by. Its laughable to say that meeting didnt have any influence on Trap's behavior.
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TBH ive never been convinced he's ever been influenced by Tardelli or the aforementioned. Judging by many of Tardelli's media briefings he knows little of what Trap is thinking, dont mind have an influence on selecting the squad. These were the men that were going week in week out to games in the 6 months between Estonia and Euros squad announcement and they came up with 1 new face?!

Also I4E; why do you think Trap began going to matches 2 days after Delaney's meeting? Called Hoolahan up? Reached out to Gibson? Off the top of my head thats what happened in the immediate aftermath which would be the case in years gone by. Its laughable to say that meeting didnt have any influence on Trap's behavior.


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Far as I can see press questions and fai meetings/briefings are the only external influences
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Originally posted by RogerMilla RogerMilla wrote:

Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by RogerMilla RogerMilla wrote:

Originally posted by Kerrzy Kerrzy wrote:

Originally posted by Fitz Fitz wrote:

Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:



Dunphy's just said the he doesn't think the management team knew about Hoolahan 3 years ago despite the fact that Trap capped him against Columbia 5 years ago.  It actually beggars belief.




Yep, and he also said Trap's only been picking him because of 'pressure from media etc.' Like Trap gives a f**k about the media LOL


It was the meeting between Trap and his boss that meant Hoolahan was called in in the 1st place following the Board meeting that decided to keep him. No coincidence he went to Norwich 2 days later (probably for the 1st time) and named in the squad a week or two later for Greece. And no doubt his boss was influenced by the media; so Dunphy isn't too far wrong on that point!


Agree fully , trap is massively influenced by the media, if it wasn't for the media banging on to him at every game , hoolahan would be nowhere near the squad, Sammon would be starting every game and McCarthy would probably have fcuked off to Scotland.

Trap doesn't watch rte or read our papers , he isn't in the pub talking to fans , he went to feck all games before he got bollocked by the fai , his only influences are the media or delaney, that's it


Bit of a contradiction to say that Trap's influenced by the media if he doesn't watch RTE or read the papers. You really think he's more influenced by the questions at press conferences seeing as how you've said he doesn't read the finished articles articles than he is by the team of scouts such as Mick Martin and Frank Stapleton that report on players to him??


Yes I believe that he lives in a bubble and press conferences questions are one of the few things that breach that bubble.
You can see it by how he loses the head with the press over players and tactics.


I think it's the opposite, the more the media bang on about something the less likely he is to do it. Think he's petty like that.
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Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by RogerMilla RogerMilla wrote:

Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by RogerMilla RogerMilla wrote:

Originally posted by Kerrzy Kerrzy wrote:

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Dunphy's just said the he doesn't think the management team knew about Hoolahan 3 years ago despite the fact that Trap capped him against Columbia 5 years ago.  It actually beggars belief.




Yep, and he also said Trap's only been picking him because of 'pressure from media etc.' Like Trap gives a f**k about the media LOL


It was the meeting between Trap and his boss that meant Hoolahan was called in in the 1st place following the Board meeting that decided to keep him. No coincidence he went to Norwich 2 days later (probably for the 1st time) and named in the squad a week or two later for Greece. And no doubt his boss was influenced by the media; so Dunphy isn't too far wrong on that point!


Agree fully , trap is massively influenced by the media, if it wasn't for the media banging on to him at every game , hoolahan would be nowhere near the squad, Sammon would be starting every game and McCarthy would probably have fcuked off to Scotland.

Trap doesn't watch rte or read our papers , he isn't in the pub talking to fans , he went to feck all games before he got bollocked by the fai , his only influences are the media or delaney, that's it


Bit of a contradiction to say that Trap's influenced by the media if he doesn't watch RTE or read the papers. You really think he's more influenced by the questions at press conferences seeing as how you've said he doesn't read the finished articles articles than he is by the team of scouts such as Mick Martin and Frank Stapleton that report on players to him??


Yes I believe that he lives in a bubble and press conferences questions are one of the few things that breach that bubble.
You can see it by how he loses the head with the press over players and tactics.


I think it's the opposite, the more the media bang on about something the less likely he is to do it. Think he's petty like that.


Possibly at times but this is also influence. My point stands that this is one of the few methods of getting through to him
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Sorry Sono,

It was aimed at Kerzi, who just seems to want to find negativity.

I thought McGeady was one of best players last night, and it would appear that a lot of others would agree too.
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Sorry Sono,

It was aimed at Kerzi, who just seems to want to find negativity.

I thought McGeady was one of best players last night, and it would appear that a lot of others would agree too.


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When you live in a country that has begrudgery as one its off putting traits, then it should be no surprise to hear people calling for McGeady and Robbie Keane to be dropped.

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McGeady gets an unbelievable amount of criticism not only on here but in general


And do you think it's unfair?

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Originally posted by Sono Sono wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:



McGeady gets an unbelievable amount of criticism not only on here but in general


And do you think it's unfair?



Well obviously I do Sono.I thought the hint that he got unfair criticism was implyed in my post

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